1942 IWC calibre 61

Hey guys,

I was considering buying this watch as I really liked the look of and then it
dawned on me this could be a redial.

I have only owned one IWC in the past so I am not so versed in their models
etc, but really enjoyed the overall aesthetic of this piece.

Initially I noticed the printing all seemed a little sloppy, particularly the
minute track and then - it's missing Schaffenhausen under IWC. It's clearly
relumed - but I would have it relumed to better suit the watch.

Were there ever models without Schaffenhausen on the dial?

It appears to be a cal 61, and I found only one other similar example,
marketed with Tiffany on the dial (see below).

I dated this one to 1942 from the serial but cannot see any other similar
radium dials online.

Here are some pics:

thank you for your help and assistance.

best wishes,

oliver :)

Hi Oliver,

the watch is equipped with a caliber 60 and is dated 1943. The hands and the
dial are badly relumed and reprinted from my point of view. The missing
Schaffhausen is a strong indicator for that. However the movement in that
watch is in very good shape. It looks untouched with the exception of the
screw holding the balance cock. Especially mentionable is the quality of the
movement, having a cap jewel on the escape wheel held down by a polished steel
plate and the adjustments to three positions. The HXB engraving on the balance
cock shows that this movement was exported to the US.

What are the markings on the inside of the case back?

With a correct dial, this would be a very nice watch from my point of view.

br

Cromagnonman

These were my conclusions, but I did earlier today see another early IWC
without Schafenhausen so wanted to confirm.

Hi Oliver,

that is interesting and somehow strange. It is reallydifficult to say because
of the poor image quality, but if you inspect the dial closely the painted
dots on that watch are not aligned with the depened round minute markers. This
is only a shoot in the dark because of the image quality, but maybe that is
also a redial.

Do you have a better image of the second watch?

br Cromagnonman

The second watch is taken direct from a 1940's IWC catalogue

www.gregsteer.net/IWC/Catalogues_1940s_onward/Catalogue_1940s_Blue/Catalogue%20-%201940%27s%20Blue.html

Hi Oliver,

one never stops learning. The catalog image for sure doesnt show a redial.
Even that catalog shows a dozen of watches without the Schaffhausen imprint.
So you where right, the missing imprint cannot be considered as an indication
of a redone dial.

Thanks for showing that.

br

Cromagnonman

Are there any other members who could comment on the authenticity of the dial?

Best wishes,

Oliver

The dial is not repainted and was never high quality.

The minute markers are not painted dots on the black dial sample and
reflection is creating an illusion...

The lack of schaffhausen is seen often enough in the uk to not alarm folk who
are watch shopping, whilst the catalogue is helpful it would be even more
helpful if the designated market was known.

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