• Apprentice
    21 Nov 2018, 11:43 a.m.

    Just arrived yesterday. Removed original GF band. Added bullfrog strap.

    I am a vintage Vacheron Constantin guy, buy have always wanted a vintage
    Ingenieur.

    This one probably dates to
    1958/59.

  • Master
    21 Nov 2018, 12:04 p.m.

    Excellent acquisition, piepan dial Ref 666A, most likely a cal 852. Have you
    or your watchmaker opened the watch yet?

    I am curious, why did you replace the original GF bracelet? And will you
    please post an image of the GF bracelet?

  • Apprentice
    21 Nov 2018, 12:37 p.m.

    I have not opened the case as yet, but have seen the movement and it is 853.

    I am not a huge fan of metal bracelets and this one was also not quite large
    enough for my wrist.

    I plan to use this piece on a regular basis and have heard that the vintage
    metal bracelets can be fragile.

    I will take pixs of bracelet later.

  • Master
    21 Nov 2018, 3:14 p.m.

    Are you planing to have the watch serviced before wearing it regularly? If you
    do, please have the watchmaker check if here is a soft iron plate between the
    dial and the movement.

    This plate is essential on Ref 666A with cal 852 to complete the Faraday cage,
    because the dials are not made of soft iron. I am unsure if the same is true
    for the Ref 666A with cal 853, and it woud be interesting to know.

  • Apprentice
    2 Dec 2018, 4:58 p.m.

    Here is the band...I think it may be NOS and not from original watch.

    I could use a couple of spare links if any one has them available.

    Otherwise the band is just a bit small for my wrist.

  • Master
    2 Dec 2018, 9:17 p.m.

    Thanks for posting. It appears to be a Ref 11. The ends are missing. I hope
    you have them. You must ensure they are not lost, because they are close to
    impossible to find.

    I am not sure if there are extra links for that bracelet. A search on the Net
    may prove me wrong.

    I believe most ref 666 Ings were sold with leather straps and the GF bracelets
    were sold separately, and added at the time of purchase.

  • Apprentice
    2 Dec 2018, 9:36 p.m.

    Thanks...I do have the ends for the bracelet.

  • Insider
    7 Dec 2018, 11:01 a.m.

    Well done. Not easy to find, these. Join the club! And if you ever consider
    parting with the GF bracelet, I am a fellow aficionado, who would be keen to
    have one.

    Greetings

    Aaro

  • Insider
    7 Dec 2018, 11:05 a.m.

    My vintage Inge has cal 8531 but the inner case lid certainly hasn't got holes
    in it.

    Aaro

  • Master
    7 Dec 2018, 11:59 a.m.

    Aaro

    The image of the soft iron plate with the two holes is NOT of the soft iron
    cover that you find on the back of the watch when you open the caseback.

    The image of the plate with two holes is of a soft iron plate that goes
    between the movement and the dial on the Ref 666A Ingenieur (no date) to
    complete the Faraday cage, because the dials of the ref 666A (no date) are not
    made of soft iron.

    The two holes are there for the feet of the dial to pass through to be secured
    to the movement. The feet of the dial of the Ref 666A (no date) are longer
    than the feet of the dials of the Ref 666AD (with date) to pass through the
    plate and reach the movement.

    The plate is not necessary on the Ref 666AD because the dial is made of soft
    iron and completes the Faraday cage.

    I know this is a fact for the Ref 666A with cal 852 (no date) but I do not
    know if this is true for the Ref 666A with cal 853. I was hoping NZ666AD would
    be able to shed some light into this.

  • Insider
    7 Dec 2018, 12:07 p.m.

    Got it! Makes sense. Just wondering what the date window does to the faraday
    cage? Or will the number disc do the job? I have a 853 666AD myself but cannot
    shed any light on your question, unfortunately.

    Greez

    Aaro

  • Master
    7 Dec 2018, 12:15 p.m.

    The date window is obviously a point of weakness on the amagnetic properties
    of the watch, but it is in a position that does not affect the escapment if
    the watch is exposed to a magnetic field.

  • Apprentice
    7 Dec 2018, 1:03 p.m.

    I plan to have my watchmaker open the 666AD when I visit him in the next
    couple of weeks.

    I will then have images of what is happening on the inside.

    The watch is keeping excellent time since in my possession and was most likely
    serviced prior to my purchase.

    Anyone have suggestions for where to have it re-lumed?

  • Master
    7 Dec 2018, 4:47 p.m.

    If the movement has been serviced recently, all that is needed to verify if
    there is a plate between the movement and the dial is to remove the movement
    from the case. The plate should be visible. There is no need to remove the
    dial and hands.

    As to relume, your best bet is sending the watch to IWC for service. It's not
    cheap but in many case worthy.

  • Master
    10 Dec 2018, 12:03 a.m.

    Forget about checking for a soft iron plate on your Ref 666AD with cal 8531.
    I somehow did not notice there was a date window!. The dial is made of soft
    iron and completes the Faraday cage.