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a new pocketwatch in the collection, a rare and strange bird...

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  • last reply by HEBE 25 Apr 2017
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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3578 posts
    12 Apr 2017, 5:06 p.m. 12 Apr 2017, 5:06 p.m.
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    Do you remember this car from the eighties ?
    i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag260/tonnyiwc/lanciaferrari_zps6dai3w3z.jpg

    It was a Lancia Thema with the 8.32 Ferrari V8 motor. It was a mix of two brands.
    Well, my latest pocketwatch in the collection is something similar...
    It is a Bergland pocketwatch, but with a calibre made by IWC, a rare cal 983.
    i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag260/tonnyiwc/900973322_v0_2_zpstawubvxw.jpg

    Pocketwatch collectors know very well the cal 982, but the cal 983 is a rare bird. Only made in very limited numbers.

    i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag260/tonnyiwc/1_zpsu0wzm4yh.jpg

    i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag260/tonnyiwc/900973322_v0_9_zpse6am9nbz.jpg

    I did a bit of research in the archives and found these quotes in older posts,

    "calibre 983 which has been created during their main crisis - featuring flat hairspring and KIF-Spirofin regulating system as well known at the 889-family. To seperate this 983 from all others - the movement has been rose-gold plated. As far as I know this movement must be one of the rarest IWC-PW-movements due to very small production."

    "The 983 has been a "cheap" version of the 982 with the same bridges and "cotes de geneve" - the balance has been a non-screwed one with flat haispring and KIF-Spirofin regulator instead of the original design. Unfortunatly I don't have pics - the movement itself has been rose-gold-plated. According to Jürgen King - the development manager at this time - those movements have been sold at the "crisis"-time to german watch companies to produced this typical kind of german "hunters"-pocketwatches"

    both quotes from Richard Habring, at that time employee with IWC.
    And from Kurt Klaus :
    "The balance is without compensation screws and the balance spring is flat. These are different from cal. 982. The idea was to produce 2 pocket watches with cal. 953 and 983 for a cheaper price, during a period that nobody wanted a pocket watch and nobody was thinking yet of a Portugieser"

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    Alan Myers
    Connoisseur 133 posts
    12 Apr 2017, 6:39 p.m. 12 Apr 2017, 6:39 p.m.
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    Nice one Tonny!

    Alan

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    12 Apr 2017, 7:25 p.m. 12 Apr 2017, 7:25 p.m.
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    Marvelous. I am getting the IWC PW bug. No cure, I suspect.

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    12 Apr 2017, 8:25 p.m. 12 Apr 2017, 8:25 p.m.
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    Beautiful p.w. Tonny. I hope Hebe will post also on the Bergland. He wrote to Kurt Klaus and the master answered him by email providing interesting information on the shock proof unit that, as you write, was not from IWC.
    Kind regards,
    Adrian.

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    Ben
    Master 1964 posts
    13 Apr 2017, 1:31 a.m. 13 Apr 2017, 1:31 a.m.
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    Congrats Tonny, well done again. It is always a pleasure to learn more of IWC's pocket watch history through your new acquisitions.

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2718 posts
    13 Apr 2017, 1:58 a.m. 13 Apr 2017, 1:58 a.m.
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    I find the movement very pleasing to look at- it has a sort of flowing, restful look- although not highly finished, but a beauty all it's own.

    Thanks for sharing your newest, Tonny.

    Nelson

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    13 Apr 2017, 6:40 a.m. 13 Apr 2017, 6:40 a.m.
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    Great acquisition and great story Tonny, congratulations!

    Kind regards,

    Bob

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3201 posts
    13 Apr 2017, 12:58 p.m. 13 Apr 2017, 12:58 p.m.
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    Yes Tonny I remember the Thelma! I drove at the time a Lancia Flavia and Trevi VX.

    Congrats on the very interesting Pocket Watch.

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    8541
    Master 4484 posts
    25 Apr 2017, 3:31 p.m. 25 Apr 2017, 3:31 p.m.
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    Wow - Tonny, nice addition to your very impressive collection!

    Rare Bird indeed.

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    8541
    Master 4484 posts
    25 Apr 2017, 3:41 p.m. 25 Apr 2017, 3:41 p.m.
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    Bill B. has written:

    Marvelous. I am getting the IWC PW bug. No cure, I suspect.

    Say What? Quote: I am getting the IWC PW bug.

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    25 Apr 2017, 4:39 p.m. 25 Apr 2017, 4:39 p.m.
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    8541 has written:
    Bill B. has written:

    Marvelous. I am getting the IWC PW bug. No cure, I suspect.

    Say What? Quote: I am getting the IWC PW bug.

    Not a VW Bug for sure.

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    25 Apr 2017, 5 p.m. 25 Apr 2017, 5 p.m.
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    Congrats on that rare - and strange bird, Tonny.

    And a similar one :-)

    derjonk.de/lizard/983.jpg

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