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A PW you don't see every day

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    Bjørn Helge Jahnsen
    Master 545 posts
    21 Jun 2010, 2:35 p.m. 21 Jun 2010, 2:35 p.m.
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    Appart from that I don't know much about it.

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    Dimitris Psaromialos
    Master 607 posts
    21 Jun 2010, 4:10 p.m. 21 Jun 2010, 4:10 p.m.
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    A PW you don't see every day

    As newbie here can anyone give us some infos about this watch??

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    8541
    Master 4484 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 3:05 a.m. 22 Jun 2010, 3:05 a.m.
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    Calling on Michael.....

    who surely will be able to tell us more.

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    21 Jun 2010, 12:15 p.m. 21 Jun 2010, 12:15 p.m.
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    Ditto that. nt

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    Michael Friedberg
    Moderator 11468 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 4 a.m. 22 Jun 2010, 4 a.m.
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    Some information

    Around 1910 IWC made several complicated pocket watches watches, using outsourced movements from relatively small watchmakers in Western Swizterland. These watches are shown in the Meis book on IWC and relatively rarely found.

    Most were chronographs but there also was a repeater and a Grand Comp if I recall. The chronograph movements were, I believe, by Nicolet. The only thing really by IWC was the dial (which actually was outsourced too but was signed International Watch Co,). Some were for the South American market and some, I believe, were for the UK market.

    My IWC pocket watch chronograph is shown via the link below. A close-up of my watch's movement is above.

    This one shown by Bjørn is only the third chronograph I've seen. It is quite nice --a more elaborate movement than mine (could) it be a rattrapante?), a gold case and a perfect dial.

    regards,
    Michael

    click here

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/Chronograph.jpg

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    Dimitris Psaromialos
    Master 607 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 5:50 a.m. 22 Jun 2010, 5:50 a.m.
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    Thank you for the valuable informations

    May I call you Michael from now on??

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    Michael Friedberg
    Moderator 11468 posts
    21 Jun 2010, 5:45 p.m. 21 Jun 2010, 5:45 p.m.
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    any time (nt)

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    21 Jun 2010, 11:10 p.m. 21 Jun 2010, 11:10 p.m.
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    Chrono monopusher, repeater, wow!

    It reminds me of Victorin Piguet chronos produced in the '20. There are some elements that make me consider this movement targeted to achieve high standards, see for instance the column wheel covered like the geneva seal requires for the chronos and the overall finishing.

    Pictures posted are great but are quite poor illustrating the bridge right behind the bridge of the chrono wheel as well.

    If it was a rattrappante it would have had the second column wheel just right over it (considering correct my guess it's a VP).

    Weird but intriguing, it would be great to have more info about it.

    Thank you for posting and thank you Michael for giving us essential information on the origin of this fascinating caliber.

    Regards,

    roberto

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    Joseph White
    Master 1648 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 1:45 p.m. 22 Jun 2010, 1:45 p.m.
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    A Handsome Watch Indeed!!...nt.

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    Bjørn Helge Jahnsen
    Master 545 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 7:15 p.m. 22 Jun 2010, 7:15 p.m.
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    Chrono monopusher, minute repeater

    no ratrapante.

    But who made the movements?

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    23 Jun 2010, 2:55 a.m. 23 Jun 2010, 2:55 a.m.
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    I think the pocket watch shown may be based ...

    ... on a movement by Aubert Frères

    Two posts below by Ralph Ehrismann

    The answer to this question....

    https://www.iwc.com/member/forum/search_all.asp?table=archives&before=22%2F4%2F2005&after=14%2F4%2F2005&archived=yes&id=56419

    The movement and it's "Ebauche"

    https://www.iwc.com/member/forum/search_all.asp?table=archives&name=ralph&sMessage=chrono&archived=yes&id=56420

    Cheers from the cellar

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    Isobars
    Master 6256 posts
    23 Jun 2010, 1:10 a.m. 23 Jun 2010, 1:10 a.m.
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    Nice addition. nt

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    22 Jun 2010, 12:50 p.m. 22 Jun 2010, 12:50 p.m.
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    The Auber were active in the Vallee de Joux

    like the Audemars and the Piguet. From Ralph Ehrismann post I can see the ebauche without the chronograph function. Since the chronograph is one of the most difficult complication to project I wonder if Auber had the know how to develop such a caliber and if so, I would very interested to know more about it.

    I still see many similarities with the Victorin Piguet chrono calibers, same bridges, same stones positioning for the chrono functions parts etc.

    Maybe it's a little off topic, I would be thankful to someone to enlight myself about this point, even out of forum.

    Regards,

    roberto

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    Mr. Thomas Koenig
    Connoisseur 375 posts
    24 Jun 2010, 12:15 a.m. 24 Jun 2010, 12:15 a.m.
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    Would you mind

    to provide the case and the movement No (if any) ?

    I try to built a database on complicated IWC pocket watches. In case you dislike to publish the details of your watch here in the forum please send a mail to T.Koenig@rhein-emscher.de.

    Thanks

    Thomas

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