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A rare vintage IWC from Afghanistan

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    Michael Friedberg
    Connoisseur 11468 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 6:40 a.m. 28 Nov 2008, 6:40 a.m.
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    Greetings,

    A collector recently sent me photos a Ref. 802A from his collection. It is a nice "ordinary" cal. 8541 with a black dial, which itself is special, but what really is intriquing is the engraving on the back.

    This engraving shows that it was owned by king Mohammed Zahir Shah of Afghanistan. I believe that there have been reports that the stylized Arabic engraving is his name. Reportedly, the King gave IWC watches away to special visitors to his court. Previously a Cal. 89 model was reported on this forum.

    IWC's records show a first sale of this watch to ASTCO, Kabul on 20 August 1970. ASTCO is not a word in Pashto or Dari, the main languages of Afghanistan. A Pashto friend of the watch's owner suggested ASTCO may mean, Afghan Swiss Trading Company. The king was deposed in 1973, returned to Afghanistan in 2002 if I recall and died in 2007. This watch was found by the current owner in a bazaar in Kabul.

    Regards,
    Michael

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/AfghanistanRef802A.jpg

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/AfghanistanRef802A-back.jpg

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    Mr. argiris develegas
    Master 2973 posts
    27 Nov 2008, 12:35 p.m. 27 Nov 2008, 12:35 p.m.
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    A good story

    thanks for sharing Michael

    Best regards
    Argiris

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    Joseph White
    Master 1648 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 4 a.m. 28 Nov 2008, 4 a.m.
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    Great Find !..Interesting Post...Thanks, MF

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    Mr. Andrew Thomas
    Master 5816 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 6:10 a.m. 28 Nov 2008, 6:10 a.m.
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    I heard

    that you could find most things in a bazaar in Afghanistan but I hadnt thought about rare IWC watches.

    A charming story and a real pity that a gift from the King was not able to have a more gracious life to for its original owner for all its life time.
    But a lucky new owner is a great side-effect.

    Andrew

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    Nad
    Master 3797 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 5:20 a.m. 28 Nov 2008, 5:20 a.m.
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    MF, thanks for a great history lesson!!! nt

    nt

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 10:40 a.m. 28 Nov 2008, 10:40 a.m.
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    Michael, I think we have to start...

    frequenting more pawnshops, bazaars and flea markets to pick up some of these unappreciated treasures.

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    Isobars
    Master 6256 posts
    28 Nov 2008, 1:20 p.m. 28 Nov 2008, 1:20 p.m.
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    Interesting-Thanks Michael! nt.

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    chad williams
    Insider 53 posts
    29 Nov 2008, 11:50 p.m. 29 Nov 2008, 11:50 p.m.
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    A rare vintage IWC from Afghanistan

    Good story, Thanks for posting. Now how come when I was browsing through all the stall in the bazaars in Kabul , I never found that IWC! Only cheap copy watches. What an awesome find!!!!!! Very nice vintage IWC.

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    tony abou harb
    Connoisseur 105 posts
    3 Dec 2008, 9 a.m. 3 Dec 2008, 9 a.m.
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    very nice

    i tried to read the engraving by enlarging the picture but it was getting too blurry ;0(

    nice story Michael .!
    Tony

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