• Apprentice
    14 Mar 2019, 3:04 p.m.

    I am one of a handful of fanatics for the IWC Porsche Design Titan
    chronograph. Sharing some stories here, I find several casual admirers too.
    There have been a few threads that provide a glimpse into the history of the
    model, but much of it based on observations and guessing. It's difficult to
    know if historical facts about the Titan simply weren't considered important
    enough to record, or if records haven't been made available for a reason
    (maybe IWC doesn't look fondly on their partnership with Porsche Design)? This
    leaves a curious fan and collector like me having to assemble a collection of
    observations and guesses in an attempt to understand the history of the Titan.

    I prepared a very unofficial history of the IWC Porsche Design Titan for my
    personal use. I hesitated to share my "collection of information" because I
    cannot cite all my sources, and cannot confirm fact versus guesswork. My hope
    is by disclosing that my observations may not be factual, I can share what I
    believe about the Titan and encourage others to discuss the history they
    believe. Perhaps some hard facts will come forward. Maybe some will spot an
    error or simply disagree with an observation and offer what they know or heard
    or read. Resources may surface. Ultimately, perhaps the collection of thoughts
    here will unravel the mystery of someone's personally owned Titan, and foster
    a greater appreciation for this amazing watch.

    The Beginning

    Some of the history of the origin of the Titan has already been discussed here
    and elsewhere, but I'll present a brief overview.

    Ferdinand Alexander Porsche founded the Porsche Design company (separate from
    the car company) in 1972. Porsche Design partnered with IWC in 1977. The Titan
    chronograph was available for purchase in 1980, but delivery of the first
    watch was not until April 1981.

    According to a 1980 advertisement by Tourneau in New York, U.S.A., the first
    500 watches were engraved with a special Limited Edition number. This appeared
    on the back of the case above the serial number. An option was offered to have
    the owners name engraved on a link of the bracelet.

    The Titan was produced from 1980 to 1997, when the 20 year partnership between
    IWC and Porsche Design ended. There were some variations of the Titan over
    that period. To further complicate pinpointing the version of a specific
    Titan, bracelets and dials were upgraded (especially on early models) when
    they were sent to IWC for service.

    As far as I can tell, variations include two date indicators, two movements,
    three reference numbers, five bracelets, and six dials.

    Date Indicators

    In 1981 (first year), the date was printed in black on a white disk. From 1982
    to the end of production, the date was printed in white on a black disk,
    matching the day display.

    Movements

    From 1981 to 1987, the movement (Valjoux 7750 with 25 jewels and adjustments
    for temperature, isochronism and five positions) was the IWC caliber 790, and
    was nickel plated (silver color). From 1988 to the end of production in 1997,
    the movement was gilded (gold color). I have seen the IWC caliber as 7912, but
    I'm not sure if there were others during this period.

    Reference Numbers

    The first reference of the Titan was 3700, and the number was engraved inside
    the case back. Some early examples do not have a reference number engraved.
    The 3700 continued to 1987.

    In 1988, the reference number changed to 3702, and coincided with a change to
    the bracelet link design and the movement. The 3702 continued to 1991.

    In 1992, the reference number changed to 3704, again coinciding with a change
    to the bracelet link design (but the movement remained unchanged as far as I
    know). This continued through the end of production in 1997.

    Bracelets

    In 1981, the bracelet links were of a single pin design that interlocked with
    the link next to it. The bracelet length was adjustable via a ratcheting
    system in the clasp. The curved blades of the clasp were wide and thin. The
    clasp is engraved "IWC." The link attached to the case at 6 o'clock had
    "TITAN" engraved on it. The link below it was engraved "PORSCHE DESIGN." Both
    have their letters painted black. The link at 12 o'clock featured a
    personalized name engraved if the owner opted to do it. I have seen only one,
    shared elsewhere in this forum (does DOUG SYLVESTER ring a bell?). The
    connection of the bracelet to the case has screws mounted sideways (right and
    left) and can be turned a quarter of a turn at a time with a pin inserted into
    one of the four holes in the screwhead (hard to explain!).

    In 1982, the link connecting the bracelet to the case has screws that can be
    accessed from the top (much easier access). The clasp, still engraved "IWC,"
    is no longer adjustable. The blades of the clasp are more narrow and thicker
    than the year before. The single-pin link design is unchanged. The link
    engraved "Porsche Design" was removed (and the name moved to the dial). This
    bracelet version is used until 1987.

    In 1988, the bracelet links were redesigned to a double-pin connection. IWC
    included a tool with new watches to facilitate link removal. The previous
    single-pin design proved to be subject to wear, and bracelets could break or
    separate at a worn link. The clasp design is unchanged, but different
    engravings begin to appear: "IWC," "pd (stylized logo)," and "IWC PORSCHE
    DESIGN" make appearances. I have read that the clasp engraving depended on the
    market in which the Titan was sold, and corresponded to the company that had a
    greater presence in that market. Also, by 1988, other watch companies had
    developed methods of working with titanium, and watches made from titanium
    were no longer as exclusive as they had been when the Titan chronograph was
    introduced. Therefore, the link with "TITAN" engraved on it no longer appeared
    on new watches from 1988 through 1997. The case back on many reference 3702
    models shows "PORSCHE DESIGN BY IWC" engraved in block letters. The bracelet
    link design with two pins was in production through 1991.

    In 1992, the bracelet links were updated a final time, to a more standard
    attachment method: pins were driven through the side of the link, and through
    a sleeve in the connecting link. Again IWC included a tool with new watches to
    facilitate link removal. The link design remained unchanged through the end of
    production in 1997. However, there were two clasp variations offered
    concurrently. New watches from the factory came equipped with clasps that were
    adjustable while wearing on the wrist. These micro adjustments were intended
    to facilitate a better fit for times when a wearer's wrist expanded or
    contracted. The other version of this bracelet were the "replacement"
    bracelets that had the same non-adjustable clasp as the reference 3702. I have
    seen replacement bracelets with adjustable clasps on older Titans, so I'm not
    entirely certain if the adjustable clasp models were available as replacements
    (perhaps at a higher cost)?

    Dials

    In 1981, first-year dials were marked "IWC" in block letters above the date
    windows, and "International Watch Co." in script followed by "SCHAFFHAUSEN" in
    block italics below the date windows.

    In 1982, with the disappearance of the engraved "PORSCHE DESIGN" bracelet
    link, the dial showed "IWC" in block letters followed by "PORSCHE DESIGN" in
    block letters, all above the date windows. There were no words below the date
    windows.

    In 1983, a collector favorite known as "full signatures" features both
    companies names and logos. Above the date windows is "IWC" in block letters,
    followed by "International Watch Co." in script, followed by "SCHAFFHAUSEN" in
    block italics. Below the date windows is "PORSCHE DESIGN" in block letters,
    followed by the stylized "pd" logo.

    This dial continued on new watches until about 1985. It also served as the
    replacement dial for older dial versions. I don't know if older dials were
    replaced due to degraded tritium markers, or if IWC simply wanted to update
    the look of older models?

    Around 1986, the dial dropped the "pd" logo from beneath the "PORSCHE DESIGN"
    block letters.

    In 1988, the dial was simplified, and seems to reflect the dominance of the
    Porsche Design side of the partnership. Above the date windows appears
    "PORSCHE DESIGN" in block letters. Below the date windows appears "by IWC" in
    block letters.

    Around 1995 or 1996, dials show reference to Porsche only. Above the date
    windows is the stylized "pd" logo, followed by "PORSCHE DESIGN" in block
    letters. No words appear below the date windows.

    That completes my observations of the IWC Porsche Design Titan chronograph. I
    hope this was interesting and/or helpful to fanatics and admirers who are
    trying to understand a little about the Titans they own or see elsewhere. If
    any readers have constructive disagreements or observations to share, I
    encourage you to share!

    One of the things that still puzzles me: on this very forum, one of the
    contributors alluded to a German advertisement that suggested Titan watches
    were available to European customers directly from IWC, and that the first 500
    were engraved with the Limited Edition number. It was mentioned that the
    prefix "E-" was engraved on the European watches, and that the watches
    engraved with an "A-" prefix were for the American market.

    My questions and concerns: were there 1,000 watches total, 500 engraved with
    an "A-" prefix and an additional 500 engraved with an "E-" prefix? Or were
    there only 500 total? I would be upset as a customer to think there were
    another 500 "first" examples in another part of the world. Plus, I have never
    seen a photo of a Titan with an "E-" prefix. Does anyone have a photo of one?

    The other "oddity" I discovered was this: a seller from Germany offered his
    personally owned Titan on the big auction site recently. It was a reference
    3700 and came with an old burgundy colored case as the early ones did. It had
    a 1981 dial but the date was 1982 or later. It also had a replacement bracelet
    from 1992 or later (pins through the side and an adjustable clasp). The case
    serial number was early (2 278 437), and above the serial number was the
    Limited Edition engraved number A-329. The paperwork included with the auction
    showed a signed confirmation from IWC that the watch was delivered to Porsche
    in Salzburg Austria on April 30, 1981. Why would a European-delivered Titan
    with a Limited Edition engraving have an "A-" prefix instead of an "E-"
    prefix?

    I really want to see a picture of the E-prefix!

  • 14 Mar 2019, 6:25 p.m.

    Enjoyed the read Bryan.

    this is what makes this Forum worth while to visit!

    thx

  • Apprentice
    14 Mar 2019, 6:52 p.m.

    Thank you for the kind comment. Any attempt at writing a "brief" history
    always seems long. Worse, I'm not sure how accurate my observations are!
    Hopefully others on the forum with more experience than I will respond with
    corrections and suggestions.

  • Master
    15 Mar 2019, 10:58 a.m.

    Well, the Porsche Design story has been written allready.

    You can find it in Dr. David Syffers dissertation books (Die
    Unternehmensgeschichte von IWC Schaffhausen)

    This main chapter about Porsche Design takes ca. 50 pages and includes many
    details.
    But much more details about it in those books with a total of 842 pages.

    Regards

  • Apprentice
    15 Mar 2019, 1:25 p.m.

    So something does exist!

    It seems to be a work from an undisputable source. Alas, I'll never know
    without an English translation, which I cannot find. I did stumble on a
    website that promised to ask the author for a download for research purposes,
    but I have my doubts that such a request will materialize. The two volume
    publication is available from booksellers in the EU, but as passionate as I am
    about learning the story, I'm not sure I have the time and patience to
    transfer the German data to an English translator.

    As for my findings, I would certainly surrender them as disinformation in
    light of the source provided (even if I cannot understand the German text)!
    But until I can learn the true information, my observations are all that I
    have to understand the IWC/Porsche Design Titan history.

    Perhaps I may be able to contact David Seyffer of IWC to offer some
    assistance. Thank you Heiko for the lead! If any other suggestions come up, I
    appreciate hearing them.

  • Apprentice
    18 Mar 2019, 5:44 p.m.

    As I made a request via the IWC website for resources on the history of the
    Titan, I did engage a concierge on the website by the name of Marisela. The
    concierge encouraged me to send my watch to IWC for examination, but I doubt
    IWC would be able to tell me anything I don't already know (or believe I
    know). Some information from Marisela: the reference 3700 was produced from
    1982 to 1990, reference 3702 from 1987 to 1994, and reference 3704 from 1995
    to 1996. So much of the information is confusing. The 3700 should reflect
    production from at least 1981 if not earlier (even if they weren't sold until
    1981). And why the overlap of 3700 and 3702 production?

    My seemingly futile quest continues. Perhaps the information is there in David
    Seyffer's work? I'm hoping to source an electronic version of the work to
    facilitate translation from German to English. Perhaps it is time to learn the
    language since my DNA results show I am 55% German? Ja!

  • Apprentice
    27 Apr 2022, 6:11 a.m.

    Very enjoyable read, for I am also a Titan Chrono fanatic. Love em. Have a
    Full Sigs. Your information helps me date it more accurately.

  • Apprentice
    3 Nov 2023, 6:14 p.m.

    Hi! very nice write up :)

    I'm resurrecting this old thread to ask informations on how to operate on the first generation of this watch bracelet. I have recently purchased a Gen 1 model and, unfortunately, the bracelet broke. I would need to remove the damaged link (fortunately the watch was wearing loose) but it is the least intuitive mechanism ever.

    If of help, I could share pics...

    Thanks!

  • Apprentice
    6 Nov 2023, 7:20 a.m.

    Thank you for sharing this intriguing history of the IWC Porsche Design Titan chronograph! Your detailed insights and observations have provided valuable information about this remarkable timepiece's journey. It's a testament to the dedicated enthusiasts and collectors like you that we can continue to uncover the unique stories behind these watches. Your contribution is greatly appreciated!

  • Master
    7 Nov 2023, 3:19 p.m.

    Nice read and thanks for sharing your insights. Always great to read.

    For me when I read so much about watches, I'd alway love to see some of the mentioned details on some pictures.

    I know the picture upload facility here is quite tricky but hopefully soon will improve.

  • Apprentice
    19 Aug 2024, 8:54 p.m.

    I'm embarrasingly late to respond, and after so long the question may have already got an answer elsewhere, but here's the technique:

    Use a jeweler's screwdriver that is just narrow enough to fit into the slot where the single pin is resting. It is a spring-loaded pin. With the bracelet face down (and the pins facing up at you), work the tip of the jeweler's screwdriver between the tip of the spring and the link to which it is connected. Push it down and away from the link. Once the spring is retracted (and this is a bit awkward to do while you're holding the spring back with the screwdriver), move the bracelet above and the bracelet below that link sideways in opposite directions. They should slide apart.

    To connect, simply reverse the direction. As you slide the links together, the pin usually backs itself up enough to "pop" into place when the bracelet is even.

    Remember those links are both delicate, and sadly, scarce as hen's teeth. It doesn't keep me from wearing them, but I do try to avoid putting any other pressure against the bracelet (like resting my arm on a desk/table, and certainly not sleeping with one on)!

  • Master
    20 Aug 2024, 7:44 a.m.

    The 3700 manual shows a needle to dismount links.