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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    31 Jul 2020, 5:44 p.m. 31 Jul 2020, 5:44 p.m.
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    Cromagnonman
    Insider 392 posts
    2 Aug 2020, 11:12 a.m. 2 Aug 2020, 11:12 a.m.
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    Thanks for the incredible photos Hebe

    - Cromagnonman

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2660 posts
    2 Aug 2020, 1:13 p.m. 2 Aug 2020, 1:13 p.m.
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    Works of Art.....

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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    Francis
    Connoisseur 195 posts
    4 Aug 2020, 11:06 p.m. 4 Aug 2020, 11:06 p.m.
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    Lovely pictures and lighting!

    What caliber is that? My pocket watch looks to have the same caliber, except
    the fine adjustment balance lever(?) is different on facing the other way. I
    think mine is a c95.

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    Mr. Ralph Ehrismann
    Master 1423 posts
    20 Aug 2020, 11:38 p.m. 20 Aug 2020, 11:38 p.m.
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    Good work, nice piece. Only few of the c.67 have the goose neck spring for the
    setting.

    It was the wok horse ("heavy" movement H5) of IWC, when the c.52 was stopped.

    I assume the balance was taken out of an c.52 H5.

    Kind regards

    watch77

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    21 Aug 2020, 9:15 a.m. 21 Aug 2020, 9:15 a.m.
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    Interesting aspect Ralph.

    Many refs. of that era have very similar or identical balances.

    The "Fournitures" Book shows a cal. 67 with a bimetal balance.

    But another NOS cal. 67 from 1942 has a Glucydur balance. So, both types of
    balances have been used.

    An another bimetal balance from that era. JLC base movement used by VC.

    Regards

    Heiko

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    Mr. Ralph Ehrismann
    Master 1423 posts
    23 Aug 2020, 10:30 p.m. 23 Aug 2020, 10:30 p.m.
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    Hard to belive the balance is original...,

    I never saw an original balance with added copper rings under the screws...

    But you are rhgt, I have never remarked it, in the furniture catalog most of
    the pocket watch movements are shown with com. balance.

    But the balance looks differernt in one of my movements

    regards

    Ralph

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    Mr. Ralph Ehrismann
    Master 1423 posts
    30 Aug 2020, 2:16 p.m. 30 Aug 2020, 2:16 p.m.
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    Great shots of the IWC later workhorse PW movement c.67 (H5).

    Recently I bought a watch with a somehow special c. 67.

    Firstly it is wearing my initials R.E. (and making me some years younger ;-) )
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    Secondly it has a quality I never saw before: at least 17j, (I have not
    removed the dial to check it ther is a jewel on the minutes wheel or a cover
    jewel on the escape wheel too) and goos neck fine adjustment, not very common
    on the c.67

    To compare a place an "normal" work horse movement with compensating
    (bimetalic) balance beside: 15j no goose neck fine adjustment:

    herer some pictures of this pair:

    I will work in better pictures, when I find time to set up my photo
    equipment....

    regards

    Ralph

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3567 posts
    30 Aug 2020, 9:10 p.m. 30 Aug 2020, 9:10 p.m.
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    Hello Ralph, I believe the cal 67's in the KM watches have the goose neck
    adjustment too.

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    Mr. Ralph Ehrismann
    Master 1423 posts
    30 Aug 2020, 9:38 p.m. 30 Aug 2020, 9:38 p.m.
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    Yes, this is correct, many of them have goosneck fine adjustemns, but the
    finish of the movement ist poor: no genava strips decoration, just 15 j.

    Sorry bad picture old picture from 2002, I just found in my docs.

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    31 Aug 2020, 8:31 a.m. 31 Aug 2020, 8:31 a.m.
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    Thanks for the hint about the strange balance Ralph,

    and for the effort as well.

    I have two C.67 glucydur balances in stock, but the bimetal balance works
    fine. So, no need to change it.

    And a decorated C.67 BUND with goose neck adjustment.

    Regards

    Heiko

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    Cromagnonman
    Insider 392 posts
    31 Aug 2020, 10:56 a.m. 31 Aug 2020, 10:56 a.m.
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    Hi hebe et al,

    really interesting that there are copper or even better gold washers under the
    balance poising screws. It would be very interesting to know if that was done
    by the factory. The addition of the washers increases the balance inertia.
    However that is a lot of manual work done by the watchmakers. if we look at
    the photos from others, there are no washers under the balance screws. Of
    course the quality of your pictures are way better and it is easy to pot those
    details.

    You are not only a wizzard in tuning 3303 bracelets, you are a genius in
    taking macro photographs.

    thanks for contributing this most interesting shots.

    br

    Cromagnonman

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    2 Sep 2020, 8:12 a.m. 2 Sep 2020, 8:12 a.m.
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    Thank you Cromagnonman.

    I have this watch about 12 years in collection and I spotted an older photo,
    it shows another uncommon detail.

    The former dial was without any script and I kept it. I will compare it to
    similar IWC dials, because two uncommon details are strange ?!

    Regards

    Heiko

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