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Cal 83 with unusual font on the dial?

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    Mr. Vince Chook
    Apprentice 7 posts
    5 Feb 2015, 12:34 a.m. 5 Feb 2015, 12:34 a.m.
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    Thanks in advance for the help. I have come across this watch with the serial number (1072296) but the font in the dial look rather unusual. I wonder whether it is authentic?

    [s29.postimg.org/o7v9n5nbn/16238343806_6e339acf8b_o.jpg](postimg.org/image/o7v9n5nbn/)
    [s17.postimg.org/z1brvcj23/15641840914_6b2db3d10a_o.jpg](postimg.org/image/z1brvcj23/)
    [s9.postimg.org/xanf5lm9n/16264262695_e503542121_o.jpg](postimg.org/image/xanf5lm9n/)
    [s28.postimg.org/64xtrskt5/16076890200_73e415692f_o.jpg](postimg.org/image/64xtrskt5/)

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3567 posts
    5 Feb 2015, 10:19 a.m. 5 Feb 2015, 10:19 a.m.
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    Looks OK to me. Different dials were used for these watches, sometimes in limited batches.

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    Michael Friedberg
    Moderator 11468 posts
    5 Feb 2015, 2:05 p.m. 5 Feb 2015, 2:05 p.m.
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    I can't tell for sure, but it could be a redial. I have seen dials with fonts similar to this before, however.

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    Mr. Vince Chook
    Apprentice 7 posts
    5 Feb 2015, 4:19 p.m. 5 Feb 2015, 4:19 p.m.
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    Michael Friedberg has written:

    I can't tell for sure, but it could be a redial. I have seen dials with fonts similar to this before, however.

    Thank you so much for your help Michael and Tonny. The movement serial seems to suggest that it is a 1943 production and with your trained eyes, the movement seems genuine?

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    Michael Friedberg
    Moderator 11468 posts
    5 Feb 2015, 4:50 p.m. 5 Feb 2015, 4:50 p.m.
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    Movement and case look genuine.

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    Mr. Vince Chook
    Apprentice 7 posts
    10 Feb 2015, 8:52 p.m. 10 Feb 2015, 8:52 p.m.
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    Michael Friedberg has written:

    Movement and case look genuine.

    Michael one more question watch with this age, does it normally come with crystal top or just plastic like top? Thanks for your help in advance

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2660 posts
    10 Feb 2015, 9:12 p.m. 10 Feb 2015, 9:12 p.m.
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    I agree that the case and the movement are cal.83.
    However, about the dial I am less sure. It looks too new for me and there is no patina, which is unusual for a 70 years old watch.
    Just a personal opinion.
    Kind regards,
    Adrian,
    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Vince Chook
    Apprentice 7 posts
    10 Feb 2015, 9:54 p.m. 10 Feb 2015, 9:54 p.m.
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    alwaysiwc has written:

    I agree that the case and the movement are cal.83.
    However, about the dial I am less sure. It looks too new for me and there is no patina, which is unusual for a 70 years old watch.
    Just a personal opinion.
    Kind regards,
    Adrian,
    (alwaysiwc).

    Hi Adrian,

    Thanks for the reply. I think the dial may have been re-dial as I also can't find the exact front. The other thing that I am interested to know is the crystal. It seems to me that it is plastic. I know that some of the old watches they come with plastic top. Is it common to be found on a calibre 83 during that era?

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2660 posts
    12 Feb 2015, 7:42 p.m. 12 Feb 2015, 7:42 p.m.
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    All the IWC cal.83 watches I have seen had a plastic crystal.
    Plastic crystals are around since 1920.
    Kind regards,
    Adrian
    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Stefano De G.
    Graduate 31 posts
    13 Feb 2015, 10:44 a.m. 13 Feb 2015, 10:44 a.m.
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    Redial, 99% sure.
    9, 8 and 7 are very badly painted.

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