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Could you help identify this IWC model, is it even real?

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  • last reply by Bill B. 29 Jan 2025
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    Baggins
    Apprentice 3 posts
    26 Jan 2025, 9:06 a.m. 26 Jan 2025, 9:06 a.m.
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    First time posting, so hello to everyone.

    I am no expert, but what caught my attention is the unusual horizontal position of sub-dials and I have never seen a left one with days on any IWC watch (I have been looking all over the internets including asking ChatGPT, but could not find any specific information).

    This makes me think it is either some very rare custom made model or a blatant fake. Could you please share your thoughts?

    Thank you!

     

     

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    Wil Ma
    Apprentice 72 posts
    26 Jan 2025, 9:22 a.m. 26 Jan 2025, 9:22 a.m.
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    Hello Baggins

    Just two points to think about:

    - what should these pushers do? I can't see chronograph hands...

    - why should IWC write inteRAtional on the case back with a missing N? Is the watch especially expensive because of this fault? Like with faults on stamps...

    It is more likely to be a badly done watch that tries to look similar to an IWC without even copying an exact model.

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    Baggins
    Apprentice 3 posts
    26 Jan 2025, 7:34 p.m. 26 Jan 2025, 7:34 p.m.
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    Thank you kindly for your prompt response, WIL MA. Much appreciated pointing out the obvious that I missed.

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    David V
    Apprentice 40 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 12:55 a.m. 27 Jan 2025, 12:55 a.m.
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    Sorry, this looks like a blatant fake.

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    Mr. elton chow
    Apprentice 19 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 3:49 a.m. 27 Jan 2025, 3:49 a.m.
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    Sure, this watch is faked …

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    Borayama
    Apprentice 3 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 11:12 a.m. 27 Jan 2025, 11:12 a.m.
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    I saw this at a vintage shop. Could you help identify if it is fake?

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3180 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 5:07 p.m. 27 Jan 2025, 5:07 p.m.
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    FAKE FAKE FAKE 

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 7:45 p.m. 27 Jan 2025, 7:45 p.m.
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    I agree the watch on the bracelet is NOT an authentic IWC.  Take care, remember you should buy the seller, not the watch. Make sure you know and can trust the seller.

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    Baggins
    Apprentice 3 posts
    27 Jan 2025, 11:44 p.m. 27 Jan 2025, 11:44 p.m.
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    Additional question: was there ever a model with sub-dials placed horizontally?

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    Ben
    Master 1955 posts
    28 Jan 2025, 1:15 a.m. 28 Jan 2025, 1:15 a.m.
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    If it is just 2 sub-dials arranged horizontally that you are after, reference 5017 fits the bill. An iconic piece.

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    Mark Fleminger
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    28 Jan 2025, 4:43 a.m. 28 Jan 2025, 4:43 a.m.
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    Yes 

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    29 Jan 2025, 1:21 p.m. 29 Jan 2025, 1:21 p.m.
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    Yes, here are two IWCs with horizontal subdials:  The Portugieser and the DFB Big Pilot.  

     

     

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