• Connoisseur
    22 Jan 2013, 10:04 p.m.

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    I fell in love with new Inges! I didn't expect two, flagships watches of new series-Tourbillon and Perpetual Calendar... I never think that people from Schaffhausen can put those complications to Ingenieur Series...but now I see it and I can't stop admire! But I have some kind of trouble...I love family of caliber 50000 and I think that there are a lot of watches with that caliber...3 from Portuguese family and 5 from Pilot's. And now, when Big Ingenieur disapperaed from Ingenieuer family on site I'm asking myself what with future 7 DAYS POWER RESERVE in Ingenieur? Maybe Schaffhausen will add it back after SIHH?
    What is Your opinion about that?

  • Master
    22 Jan 2013, 10:40 p.m.

    Why go to the trouble of announcing new Ingies, drop the big Ingie and then reintroduce it. Makes no sense. Sorry, but it's gone although they are still available in the shops. Picked up a 2011 limited edition on the 30 Dec 2012 so it is possible. Hunt it down if it's your goal.

  • Connoisseur
    22 Jan 2013, 11:15 p.m.

    Which limited edition do You mean? You don't understand me...I know that I can buy it yet, but I fear about calibre 50000 family in Ingenieur

  • Master
    23 Jan 2013, 7:03 a.m.

    The calibre 5000 is no longer used in the Ingie series anymore. I do not see that changing after the launch of the new Ingie range at SIHH. Limited Editions are mainly about dial variations, then case material and then calibre changes in that order. As you know the Portuguese and Pilot series carry the c.5000 family. It's decided by IWC rather than this forum and it's members.

  • Master
    23 Jan 2013, 10:24 a.m.

    The Cal 5000 is a remarkable movement but I am not sure it fits the Ingenieur philosophy of very robust watches. It is used in the Big Pilot because of the heritage of the original Big Pilot powered by a pocket watch movement. I don't think the Cal 5000 movement is designed for a sports watch. With the exceptions of the digital calendar and the tourbillon, the new range is powered by tried and tested movements which have proven robustness.

    I have driven single seater track cars with a mere fraction of the power of a Formula 1 car and the vibrations and G forces experienced would not be the best place for any Cal 5000 movement.

  • Graduate
    23 Jan 2013, 12:34 p.m.

    It is discontinued. I am so happy that I got one last month as the movement is gorgeous, looks great in the Inge and for me is very valuable as I rotate through many watches and it is so nice to have that 7 day reserve and not have to reset the watch. Now I have a rare item :)

  • Connoisseur
    23 Jan 2013, 1:19 p.m.

    Ye, I know that Inge series isn't heritage that Portuguese or Pilot, but You know...Ingenieur with 7 days power reserve was (and still is of course) watch to everything for me. New series is gorgeous of course.

  • Master
    23 Jan 2013, 1:35 p.m.

    I disagree. The Ingenieur is a fundamental part of IWC's heritage. It combined elegance with the forefront of wristwatch development at that time. Anti-magnetic protection, an element of water protection was combined with the brilliant Pellaton-powered Cal 85 series of movements. The 3227 reconnected IWC with that heritage with the Cal 80110 movement. I am disappointed that it appears that IWC has chosen to have display backs on the new Cal 80110 Ingenieurs ("unless I am very much mistaken" - in the words of the great Murray Walker).

  • Master
    23 Jan 2013, 1:47 p.m.

    Rave, I tend to agree with you, and I think the 2011/2012 Automatic Mission Earth is now worth snapping up.

  • Apprentice
    23 Jan 2013, 5:40 p.m.

    I just bought an IWC Mission Earth, my first IWC. Out of your posts... I should be happy? I like it a lot, think it's a brilliant watch!

  • Connoisseur
    23 Jan 2013, 11:05 p.m.

    Rave, You didn't understand me...Ingenieuer series for me is heritage but if I have levels of heritage...from 0 (not heritage) to 5 (very heritage) now I would give Pilot's 4...Portuguese 5...and Inhgenieurr 2. But it's only my perssonal opinion and I think that style of new Inges is perfect!

  • Connoisseur
    23 Jan 2013, 11:07 p.m.

    Ye, You must happy! You have very good watch and that case...it's the biggest Inge in those series!

  • Master
    24 Jan 2013, 1:01 a.m.

    I really can't grade levels of heritage. This is all very subjective and I am not saying you are wrong. If we were all in agreement, we would be chasing the same watch and making life too easy for the folk in Schaffhausen.

    What makes this Forum so interesting for us is the divergence of views. It also adds value to the marketing folk in Schaffhausen. Sales will determine who is right and I suspect you will be proven to be more right than I.

  • Connoisseur
    24 Jan 2013, 10:33 a.m.

    Exactly Rave. You have truth too, because everyone of us have other personal feelings and so this forum is very interesting. Feelings are very subjective and anybody shouldn't discuss about that. And like You said-people from Schaffhausen must think everyday how the should care about tastes everyone of us-IWC funs.

  • Apprentice
    29 Jan 2013, 8:08 a.m.

    I just bought a Big Ing Zidane Edition barely a month ago, not realising there would be no more 5000 series movements for the new Ingenieur range. Glad I finally made the move to buy my first IWC!

  • Master
    29 Jan 2013, 9:32 a.m.

    Congratulations to you both. Do please share some photos and welcome to the IWC virus!

    Best wishes,
    Thang

  • Connoisseur
    29 Jan 2013, 10:44 a.m.

    Very good choose! That limitation is great. We'll waiting for photos from You. Congratulations and enjoy!

  • Apprentice
    6 May 2021, 4:32 a.m.

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