Ever seen a Cal. 972V ?

This ref. 5301 with arabic numerals on a silver dial is special, because most ref. 5301 have enamelled white dials with roman numerals, like the most models of modern IWC pocket watches (PWs with shock protection).

The second photo shows it.

Only silver dials were used for the military version of the ref. 5301 BUND (only aprox. 50 watches).

I could not find this silver dial variant in any catalogue yet ?!

And this ref. 5301 has a uncommon cal.: C.972V

I think the C.972V was an interim number and was later corrected to C. 9720 ?!

So, the "V" could stand for "vergoldet" (German) => gold plated.

Well, I have the variant with the white dial too, but this dial has that special Deck Watch style.

As far as I know, the ref. 5301 and the ref. 5215 are the only IWC PWs with fully brushed cases.

All others are polished, or just the case back is brushed.

Regards
HEBE

Hello Hebe,
PW are not my main interest but because of your glorious pictures and the knowledge you share with all this information, these posts of yours are a joy to read and very interesting , even for me !
So Thank you !

Thank you DUTCHTIME.

Sure, the majority wants to buy fashion and lifestyle today.
Those PWs do not fit for this, I know.

If I pull a PW out of the pocket, I mostly receive strange looks :-)

Those watches are real craftmanship and manufactory.
They were produced in low number of pieces, thats what drives me to find them :-)

So, those watches are like art for me and they are really cheap, too cheap I think.

PW topics are nothing for the mainstream, only for a handful of remaining vintage fans, I know.

Sure, current watches are sometimes inhouse, but the part of manufactory is usually low and the production is very high.

BTW, photography is another hobby for me. I have learned to handle the tools and just want to show photos of quality watches in that quality they deserve :-)

You do an excellent job with these pictures, and they match the quality of the movements too. Keep the PW history alive in this way !. You may crate some new followers for these fine watches.
I do see so called new fasionistas using a PW because of there clothing style so there is new interest in PW.
For me there history lives on in the portuguese watch so i cherish the history.

I just drop on this very old thread.

Has someone ever seen the movement of a BUND Ref.5301.

The 972V with its metallic dial looks so militay, it is possible that it is an unsold piece for the to Army.
In 1980 the ref. 5301 was listed with c.972.
1982 it already got the c.9720.

What I could not find in the catalogs was the "see through back".
I know it was an official Model, but may was only produced in the early 1970's. A gold coated movement in a steel "see through back" model does not looks so cool.

Here one with an ordinary c.972 (no "V"-Version)

regards

Ralph

Ralph, the 5301 datasheet has listed two dials, also the silver dial.

The BUND movement is adjusted to 5 positions.

So, I think it is just an usual 5301 with a silver dial.

A 5301 BUND movement:

P.S: A very nice Bund movement.

When I look at my c.97 with the glass back case:
Something is strange:
No IWC marking at all, is it probalby a scool watch?
The case is numbered correctly 2490247

Kind regards

Ralph

Indeed Ralph, a "modern" IWC cal. without any marking is strange.

Some more pictures from dial, eg would be interesting.

Regards

HEBE