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Finally, a Calibre 28 --the missing link to my pocket watch collection

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    Michael Friedberg
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    26 May 2010, 9:25 a.m. 26 May 2010, 9:25 a.m.
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    After several years of searching, I've finally found and added a circa-1879 calibre 28 to my pocket watch collection. To me, it's the missing link.

    The calibre 28 is a so-called Pfister movement, named after IWC's CEO of that era. It, and its companion Savonette calibre 29, are known as "a bascule Pilier" -French for "rocking pillar", a movement characteristic I don't fully understand. What is notable about the movement, aside from its relative rarity, is the full three-quarters plate.

    I consider this watch as a missing link to my collection in several ways. It completes to my thinking my collection of all basic pre-1900 IWC calibres. The collection goes from Jones (3 different examples) to Seelands (2, including a rare Boston), now to the Cal. 28, and then to Elgins (a rare Elgin I and an Elgin II Pallweber) and then to several Calibre IWC's, early 1890s forerunners of Calibre 52s, IWC's basic pocket watch movement during the first part of the 20th century.

    I have more than a dozen pre-1900 IWC pocket watches, of which 12 -representing about 1500 years- are shown above. Most are in close-to-new condition and almost all have signed dials. To give you some idea of rarity, approximate numbers are 21,000 for Jones mostly in the 1870s, and about 20,000 Seelands from 1875-8 (in the mid-1880s there were 300 Bostons produced). There were possibly about 20,000 Pfisters from 1879 through 1884 (my calibre 28 is a low number and probably 1879). If I’ve counted correctly there were about 920 Elgin I’s from 1879-1887.

    You also can see the evolution of movement design and construction in the thrid photo: from Jones (top left) to Seeland (top right) to Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier (bottom left) to Elgin. Also note the engraved balance cocks --I may have some close-ups of the decoration later.

    Although I'm focusing on pre-1900’s IWCs, I also have many later examples. I’ll tell about those subsequently.

    Regards,
    Michael

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/Cal28dial.jpg
    Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier, dial view

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/Cal28mvt.jpg
    Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier, movement view

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/PW-Pre1900-4mvt.jpg
    4 movements: 1874-1886, showing the evolution of early IWC movement construction

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/PW-Pre1900.jpg
    12 Pre-1900 IWC watches and 1500 years of history. 3 Jones (lower left) to IWC Calibre (top row)

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    26 May 2010, 7:10 p.m. 26 May 2010, 7:10 p.m.
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    Well done, Michael. Excellent pictures and >>>

    narrative of the history of the missing link.

    Bill

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    8541
    Master 4484 posts
    26 May 2010, 10:30 a.m. 26 May 2010, 10:30 a.m.
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    That is fantastic Michael - both from a collection

    as well as a a personal (for you) point of view.

    Now, the thing that strikes me here, is the magnificence of that hand engraving on the movement ! and the seemingly excellent condition of the piece. Is that dial original?

    Enjoy - you deserve to have the collection complete.

    I fear I get drawn into this pocket watch game here ......(with only a Calibre 95 from 1927 in my collection....things could get nasty on me if I dare to venture doiwn this route (financially I mean). ENJOY !

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    Mr. Ivan Melbourne
    Master 1918 posts
    26 May 2010, 9:15 a.m. 26 May 2010, 9:15 a.m.
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    wonderful Collection and great focus

    congratulations

    Ivan
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    Mr. argiris develegas
    Master 2973 posts
    26 May 2010, 4:20 p.m. 26 May 2010, 4:20 p.m.
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    Very happy for you Michael

    So is your quest over?
    Isn't there always a little something more to add?
    Was it that hard to get it and how long did it take to find it?

    Argiris

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    Clepsydra
    Master 2974 posts
    27 May 2010, 7:05 a.m. 27 May 2010, 7:05 a.m.
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    Congratulations. And now what?...

    The best part of collecting vintage watches is the "hunt". Now that you have the last trophy, what is next? I do not believe you will stop there. ,)
    Again, congratulations on the Magyar PW.

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    dzul
    Master 3984 posts
    26 May 2010, 10:20 a.m. 26 May 2010, 10:20 a.m.
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    Great post and pictures!...

    Congratulations, Michael on the acquisition of the Calibre 28. This is an impressive collection and I appreciated your historical narrative and movement evolution photos!

    Best regards,
    Jim

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    Cinq
    Master 5431 posts
    27 May 2010, 6:45 a.m. 27 May 2010, 6:45 a.m.
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    Congratulations Michael!

    Great pocket watch and excellent story of the history!

    Kind regards,

    Clemens

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    28 May 2010, 5:10 a.m. 28 May 2010, 5:10 a.m.
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    Congratulations Michael

    Great movements and great collection, so now the quest is over? What will be your next challenge?

    Regards,

    roberto

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    Brane Cop
    Connoisseur 325 posts
    27 May 2010, 9:10 p.m. 27 May 2010, 9:10 p.m.
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    Splendid, Michael, thank You!

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    28 May 2010, 7 a.m. 28 May 2010, 7 a.m.
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    Excellent acquisition

    Congratulations and cheers from the cellar

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    27 May 2010, 9:15 a.m. 27 May 2010, 9:15 a.m.
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    Congrats Michael & thanks for educating me again!

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    David Hamilton
    Master 1313 posts
    28 May 2010, 12:15 a.m. 28 May 2010, 12:15 a.m.
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    Wow! That is a great acquisition. Congratulations.

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    Richard Sheridan
    Master 4181 posts
    28 May 2010, 9:05 p.m. 28 May 2010, 9:05 p.m.
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    Sublime. She is beautiful. Wonderful collection.

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3566 posts
    28 May 2010, 11:20 a.m. 28 May 2010, 11:20 a.m.
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    amazing collection a great shape of the watches

    congrats on this last one, indeed rare to find it in this condition.

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    Isobars
    Master 6256 posts
    29 May 2010, 1:55 a.m. 29 May 2010, 1:55 a.m.
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    Hi Michael...Very nice addition.

    Best from Isobars.

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    Mr. Norbert Scheepers
    Master 2703 posts
    30 May 2010, 6 a.m. 30 May 2010, 6 a.m.
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    Congratulaions Michael...

    ... and thanks for the informative post about this calibre.

    Regards
    Norbert

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    Evan Nanos
    Master 652 posts
    30 May 2010, 1 p.m. 30 May 2010, 1 p.m.
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    Congrats! Looks pristine...

    I like the bridge engravings, very nice details.
    Thanks for the info.

    Cheers,
    Evan

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