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Finally, a Calibre 28 --the missing link to my pocket watch collection

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    Evan Nanos
    Master 652 posts
    30 May 2010, 1 p.m. 30 May 2010, 1 p.m.
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    Congrats! Looks pristine...

    I like the bridge engravings, very nice details.
    Thanks for the info.

    Cheers,
    Evan

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    Dirk Janssen
    Master 761 posts
    2 Jun 2010, 5:15 a.m. 2 Jun 2010, 5:15 a.m.
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    Congratulations, looks to be in very fine conditio

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    andrea barbaro
    Apprentice 2 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 12:03 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 12:03 a.m.
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    sorry for the question, but i've the same type of watch, and i would like to know the quotation of that watch in that period if it is possibile..

    (sorry for the english)

    thank you, Andrea

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    andrea barbaro
    Apprentice 2 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 12:03 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 12:03 a.m.
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    [b]sorry for the question, but i've the same type of watch, and i would like to know the quotation of that watch in that period if it is possibile..

    (sorry for the english)

    thank you, Andrea [/b]

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    Mr. lance guilford
    Connoisseur 137 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 4:36 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 4:36 a.m.
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    Michael Friedberg has written:

    After several years of searching, I've finally found and added a circa-1879 calibre 28 to my pocket watch collection. To me, it's the missing link.

    The calibre 28 is a so-called Pfister movement, named after IWC's CEO of that era. It, and its companion Savonette calibre 29, are known as "a bascule Pilier" -French for "rocking pillar", a movement characteristic I don't fully understand. What is notable about the movement, aside from its relative rarity, is the full three-quarters plate.

    I consider this watch as a missing link to my collection in several ways. It completes to my thinking my collection of all basic pre-1900 IWC calibres. The collection goes from Jones (3 different examples) to Seelands (2, including a rare Boston), now to the Cal. 28, and then to Elgins (a rare Elgin I and an Elgin II Pallweber) and then to several Calibre IWC's, early 1890s forerunners of Calibre 52s, IWC's basic pocket watch movement during the first part of the 20th century.

    I have more than a dozen pre-1900 IWC pocket watches, of which 12 -representing about 1500 years- are shown above. Most are in close-to-new condition and almost all have signed dials. To give you some idea of rarity, approximate numbers are 21,000 for Jones mostly in the 1870s, and about 20,000 Seelands from 1875-8 (in the mid-1880s there were 300 Bostons produced). There were possibly about 20,000 Pfisters from 1879 through 1884 (my calibre 28 is a low number and probably 1879). If I’ve counted correctly there were about 920 Elgin I’s from 1879-1887.

    You also can see the evolution of movement design and construction in the thrid photo: from Jones (top left) to Seeland (top right) to Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier (bottom left) to Elgin. Also note the engraved balance cocks --I may have some close-ups of the decoration later.

    Although I'm focusing on pre-1900’s IWCs, I also have many later examples. I’ll tell about those subsequently.

    Regards,
    Michael

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/Cal28dial.jpg
    Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier, dial view

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/Cal28mvt.jpg
    Calibre 28 a bascule Pilier, movement view

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/PW-Pre1900-4mvt.jpg
    4 movements: 1874-1886, showing the evolution of early IWC movement construction

    www.iwcforum.com/Vintage/PW-Pre1900.jpg
    12 Pre-1900 IWC watches and 1500 years of history. 3 Jones (lower left) to IWC Calibre (top row)

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    Mr. lance guilford
    Connoisseur 137 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 4:49 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 4:49 a.m.
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    IT's a great moment when you find that missing link in your collection that you have been seeking for a long time. I know the feeling. Congrats!!

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    Michael Friedberg
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    16 Jun 2011, 6:39 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 6:39 a.m.
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    Andrea --feel free to write me regarding value at michael.r.friedberg@gmail.com.

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    Mr. Dr. Hajo Thissen
    Connoisseur 449 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 9:05 a.m. 16 Jun 2011, 9:05 a.m.
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    Congratulations, excellent collection. Marvellous!

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2716 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 12:28 p.m. 16 Jun 2011, 12:28 p.m.
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    Good to see the "Link" has come to a good home (family reunion).

    Nelson

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    Isobars
    Master 6256 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 6:01 p.m. 16 Jun 2011, 6:01 p.m.
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    Congratulations Michael!

    But you lack one still ;-)

    i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/RWK29/24H2.jpg

    Best from Isobars.

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    Mr. Alan Ross
    Master 5742 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 7:10 p.m. 16 Jun 2011, 7:10 p.m.
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    Good to get this link in your collection. But I am sure there is something else out there for you to acquire.

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    Michael Friedberg
    Moderator 11468 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 9:58 p.m. 16 Jun 2011, 9:58 p.m.
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    Guys, my original post here was from May 2010. This is old news, and I've found a few more since then, like an even rarer Calibre 22.

    Apparently someone posted something on an archived post and revived this thread.

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    ref5441
    Master 3906 posts
    16 Jun 2011, 10:30 p.m. 16 Jun 2011, 10:30 p.m.
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    Congratulations! It;s good to see some PW's around here!

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