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For lovers of old production

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  • last reply by ADRIA van der Meijden 2 Mar 2020
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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    26 Jan 2020, 6:49 p.m. 26 Jan 2020, 6:49 p.m.
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    I would like to share my new acquisitions with you.

    Hermet case
    mm. 38

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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    26 Jan 2020, 6:57 p.m. 26 Jan 2020, 6:57 p.m.
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    this is the second one

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3576 posts
    26 Jan 2020, 8:31 p.m. 26 Jan 2020, 8:31 p.m.
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    Congrats and thank you for showing. Great watches, 38mm case ?

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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    26 Jan 2020, 8:39 p.m. 26 Jan 2020, 8:39 p.m.
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    Yes, both 38 mm.

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2716 posts
    26 Jan 2020, 10:12 p.m. 26 Jan 2020, 10:12 p.m.
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    These old Hermit IWC watches are very special. That one with the Military
    dial is especially beautiful! I think you have hit upon a special, but
    neglected IWC collectable market. Congratulations.

    Nelson

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3201 posts
    27 Jan 2020, 1:30 p.m. 27 Jan 2020, 1:30 p.m.
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    Beautiful :o)

    Are these Cal. 83?

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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    27 Jan 2020, 1:58 p.m. 27 Jan 2020, 1:58 p.m.
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    Yes, mov. cal.83 ref. 308

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3201 posts
    27 Jan 2020, 5:50 p.m. 27 Jan 2020, 5:50 p.m.
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    Thank You for confirming

    Both truly beautiful watches.

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    HEBE
    Master 1867 posts
    28 Jan 2020, 9:19 a.m. 28 Jan 2020, 9:19 a.m.
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    Congrats and thanks for sharing those rare acquisitions in very good shape.

    Regards

    Heiko

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    Time Exposure
    Apprentice 160 posts
    28 Jan 2020, 5:18 p.m. 28 Jan 2020, 5:18 p.m.
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    Beautiful, classic style IWC! I particularly like how the crown is recessed
    into the case. A vintage case with a perfect size for contemporary tastes! And
    it is so rare we get to see a vintage original black dial that hasn't been
    retouched. Thank you for sharing those! I only wish I could find one, by which
    time I would probably wish I could afford to obtain one.

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    30 Jan 2020, 10:04 a.m. 30 Jan 2020, 10:04 a.m.
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    What a beautiful watches Giuliano, thanks for sharing! Can you enlighten me
    a bit on 'Hermit' cases?! I know I can 'Google' it, but collectors' stories
    are better I think ;-)

    Kind regards, Bob

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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    30 Jan 2020, 8:27 p.m. 30 Jan 2020, 8:27 p.m.
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    To my knowledge the hermet case, has a tightly sealed case back, protecting it
    against humidity and dust.

    Produced around the '40 fit a caliber 83. Mostly were made in case of 33 mm
    and 36 mm, while only few were made in case of 38mm,

    Only in this case ( 38 mm. ) the crown is recessed into the case.

    Some have the word "hermet" engraved on the case back, but I have seen this
    only in case of 33 and 36 mm.

    I hope this is helpful

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    Mr. giuliano bizziocchi
    Connoisseur 321 posts
    31 Jan 2020, 6:46 a.m. 31 Jan 2020, 6:46 a.m.
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    Back to my previous post, to be more correct, not all the "Hermet" watches
    were fitted with cal. 83.

    Honestly I don't know what other calibers were used, for sure some watches
    were fitted with cal. 61.

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    8 Feb 2020, 11:34 a.m. 8 Feb 2020, 11:34 a.m.
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    Thanks Giuliano, and my stupid question is: what does Hermet mean? Was it a
    retailer or??

    Regards, Bob

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    8 Feb 2020, 2:39 p.m. 8 Feb 2020, 2:39 p.m.
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    Hi Bob,

    Here it means 'hermetical' in the sense of hermetically closed.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    2 Mar 2020, 3:22 p.m. 2 Mar 2020, 3:22 p.m.
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    Thanks Adrian, more or less like 'Oyster' to be used by Rolex when they
    invented waterproof cases?!

    Groet, Bob

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    2 Mar 2020, 4:45 p.m. 2 Mar 2020, 4:45 p.m.
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    Well Bob, the term 'hermetically' was more applicable for 'dust proof' than
    for 'water proof'.

    The military version of cal. 83, ordered by the British Ministery of Defense
    was one of the so called 'dirty dozen'.

    Among the 12 brands, IWC was the only watch with a snap-on case back, while
    the other had a screwed case back. IWC tried to make the case water proof by
    using a string of lead that was pressed between the case and the back lid but
    I guess it could not stop the entrance of water once it had been opened.I have
    never seen such lead seal.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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