• Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 10:05 a.m.

    I never thought of owning an Ingenieur before...as I can't carry them nicely. So when I saw this VC Inge, I changed my mind as it is a bit closer to a dress watch...can wear it with suit, first RG, limited edition, etc. I am glad that I made the decision. I am a happy owner now. Thank you for your compliment.

    Kelvin F.

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 10:18 a.m.

    Everything is the same, except for the dial color and quantity, 13 (limited to 188 watches) and 12 (limited to 500). Perhaps the back "engraving" would be different.

    Wrist shots? TGIF, a quick shooting for you lot.

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  • Master
    25 Oct 2013, 12:30 p.m.

    Hi Kelvin,

    Thanks for the wrist shot. You carry it very well and the case size fits perfectly. Enjoy!

    So what is your dial color and how about the xxx12?

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 1:53 p.m.

    Mine is a 323313...with a slate-colored dial...
    323312 has a chocolate-colored dial...I think another Kelvin from Hong Kong would be able to show you some wrist shots. He wears it very well...with his wrist shots, you really don't know which color to choose...haha.

    Wish you a very nice weekend and may these two watches be with you in your next visit.

    Kelvin F.

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 4:38 p.m.

    Welcome to the forum. It's a beautiful watch. Congrats.

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 6 p.m.

    Kelvin,

    The VC Ingenieur is a stunning watch by all measures and this special edition even more so. But in my book, I'm sorry to say, a thickness of 14.5mm is hardly dress watch territory. Which does not substract anything from its beauty.

  • Master
    25 Oct 2013, 6:13 p.m.

    Welcome to the Forum. That's a very special VC Ingenieur. Congratulations.

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 7:10 p.m.

    Hello Dénes,
    Thank you for your compliments! I am a proud owner of this timepiece.
    Thanks for your clarification. From your comments, it looks like THICKNESS is the #1 criteria for a dress watch, so in your opinion, starting from the ultra slim watches by JLC, Piaget (around 4mm) to the big boys (around 16-17mm), where do you think is the divide? I will go for 10mm, what do you think?
    I mistakenly called it a dress watch because of the following considerations:
    (1) Use of precious metal
    (2) Black leather strap
    (3) Use of sticks
    (4) Simple design without any complications

    Looks like the topic of a dress watch will be of interest to me and other newbies...haha.

    Thanks a lot!

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 7:11 p.m.

    Thank you for the warm welcome. I can tell I am surrounded by passionate collectors. Got lots to learn. :)

    Kelvin F.

  • Master
    25 Oct 2013, 8:14 p.m.

    Kelvin, I keep getting astounded by the beauty of this piece. I've the platinum version in my collection, and like it for the exact same reason you mention. The great classic lines, and good looks on the wrist.

    Now, I see yours in Red Gold and I hear my good friend Captain Vishal whispering in my ear...."go on you know you like it...cant go wrong with Gold!".

    Great watch - wear it in good health.

  • Connoisseur
    25 Oct 2013, 9:34 p.m.

    Kelvin,

    I am not, by any measure, the Beau Brummell of the watch world, nor do I have such aspirations. The most important criterion for dress watches is to be as simple as possible. Ideally, hour and minute hand, plus hour markers. For some, even a second hand is too much, others reluctantly allow even a date window, but nothing beyond that. Preferably no numerals, but if you have numerals, roman is better than arabic. Case material: precious metals or steel. Watch face: black. No metal bracelets and ideally a black leather strap, although brown is also borderline acceptable. As for thickness: indeed, I would draw the line at 10mm. This is probably the strictest set of criteria and it gets diluted all the time by people wearing gold Rolexes on gold bracelet or even worse, Rolex Daytonas. By the way, if you're not familiar with Beau Brummell, google it: he was quite an interesting character of early 19th century England.

  • Master
    25 Oct 2013, 10:39 p.m.

    Congratulations. I remember the release of that piece and was fortunate to see it and appreciate it in HK.

  • Connoisseur
    26 Oct 2013, 3:20 a.m.

    Mark,

    Thank you so much. Your PT version should be one of the six vintage pieces released in 2008 celebrating IWC's 140th Anniversary, am I right? They are BEAUTIFUL! Congrats to you too.

    You mentioned about "Captain Vishal", is he the one who recently posted "My experience at " Watches & Wonders "? I was at the W&W too. If I see him again next year, I will definitely say hello. Cheers...Kelvin F.

  • Connoisseur
    26 Oct 2013, 3:25 a.m.

    Hello Michael, to be really honest, I was not aware of it when it was first launched. I still remember my first visit to the 1881 Flagship when it was just opened. I was like a kid inside a toys store! So much to explore. I guess part of my purchase decision has something to do with this breathtaking experience back a few years ago. Your post has led me to this little "SELF-DISCOVERY"!

  • Connoisseur
    26 Oct 2013, 3:33 a.m.

    Hello Dénes...wow...I did google "Beau Brummell" and as you said earlier, "he was quite an intesting character of the early 19th Century England" could be an understatement. Brummell was a trend-setter!

    I also appreciate your sharing of the criteria for a DRESS WATCH and I agree with what you said. While I understand and agree with most criteria, I do have a quick question about WATCH FACE, BLACK? Do share your view, there must be some historic or cultural reasons behind this. I always think of WHITE as more dressier...LOL

    Kelvin F.

  • Master
    26 Oct 2013, 3:51 a.m.

    Congratulations!! Perfect watch indeed!! And welcome to forum of course!

  • Connoisseur
    26 Oct 2013, 3:56 a.m.

    I am so happy about the warm reception here...I look forward to more sharing and learning here. Thank you so much and do have a very nice weekend!

  • Connoisseur
    27 Oct 2013, 3:39 p.m.

    Hi Kevin,

    Welcome to the forum with this amazing beauty ! My friends know my weakness for VC - Ingenieur. Here's one from my collection to compliment yours....[i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x372/10VISHU/DSC_1855_zps3cf58940.jpg](s1178.photobucket.com/user/10VISHU/media/DSC_1855_zps3cf58940.jpg.html)

    Congratulations !

    Warm regards,

    Vishal.