Heinrich Moser and Florentine Ariosto Jones.....

I would like to present a new article : "Heinrich Moser And Florentine Ariosto Jones. A Comparison Between Two Schaffhauser Watch Manufacturers."
by : Adrian van der Meijden.

Because of its size, it will be posted in four parts. This time the content is more about two persons than about watches. Few, if any new historical facts have been added, also because recently new data have been published by Alan Myers, David Seyffer, Thomas Koenig, Michael Friedberg and Roger Nicholas Balsiger. The article was edited and put in format for the Forum by Heiko Bertram ( hebe).I want to thank all of them.
Here is Part I.
Adrian,
(alwaysiwc).

Congratulations, Adrian. An excellent start to a fascinating story. I'm looking forward to the next instalments.

Fascinating. I look forward to the remaining installments. Great job, Adrian, et al.

Fabulous Part I, Adrian. I am very much looking forward to future portions of the history.

Thank you Adrian; this has been a great read and I am also looking forward to the next section.

Excellent Adrian, really looking forward to part 2:-)

In Part II the business models and its results are discussed.
Adrian,
(alwaysiwc)

Part II

This is a fascinating and admirable report. My compliments.

On Jones' first colleague in Schaffhausen, Kidder, I've spent a little time researching him (on the so far vain hope that more about Jones would be discovered). Kidder (along with Paul Cornell) actually founded Cornell Watch Co. first in Chicago before he moved it to the West Coast. All Cornell watches are collectible, but I haven't seen any special similarities to Jones' International products. However, the move to the West Coast was prompted by the idea to capitalize upon cheap labor, so perhaps they discussed the business model (which also failed).

Here's an 1873 Cornell signed by Kidder, which looks very much like an IWC Seeland:

Excellent read. Very interesting. Clever men to be admired.

Hi Michael,
The information on Louis Kidder came of course from you and thank you for that!
I am not amazed that the Cornell watch looks like a Seeland. Probably one could say that the IWC Seeland was more or less a copy from the full plate movements made by Waltham and Elgin and as such it is not a supprise that Louis Kidder used the same basic construction.
Thanks for posting this watch. It adds to the understanding of how the watch manufacturers were thinking 150 years ago.
kind regards,
Adrian
(alwaysiwc).

In Part 3 "Private Life" and "Time After" are discussed.

In the final Part (4) are the resources: "Literature", "Acknowledgement" and "Legend" to the "pictures".

I hope you enjoyed the article.
Adrian,
(alwaysiwc).

Thank you for this interesting and informative article, Adrian...a first class piece of scholarship. I always appreciate the opportunity to learn more about the genesis of my favorite watch company. It also provided me with details of Herr Moser's life of which I was unaware. I intend to visit the manor/museum on my next trip to Schaffhausen.

Thanks Adrian for the excellent and informative article.
This HM calendar wristwatch from 1917 was probably one the last watches sold to the Russian market before the 17 October revolution.

Hi Antonio,
I never saw this model.
Is it a ladies PW turned into a wristwatch by the Moser factory in Le Locle?
Kind regards,
Adrian.

Another outstanding contribution by Adrian and his co-aurthors. We are indebted to all for this piece of history revealed so articulately.

Too bad there is not an easily accessed Archive and / or FAQ section on the history of the IWC where this contribution can be accessed without digging trough the search function in the months and years ahead.

Hi Adrian
I know very little about this watch. I bought it because I rather liked it, and because of its connection with Schaffhausen.
I do not know if it is a men's or a woman's watch but your premise that it has the movement of a woman's pocket watch makes sense, as the first wristwatches used movements from women's pocket watches.
I am inclined to think it is a men's watch because the day/date complication would be unusual in a woman's wristwatch in 1917.