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    HIROTA Masayuki
    Connoisseur 250 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 10:55 a.m. 12 Oct 2002, 10:55 a.m.
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    Dear IWC friends & Cal.89 lovers,

    Cal.89 Zwyro, an Interesting attempt.

    It is like our IWC life -It seems plain outside, But inner world has
    beautifully glistened.

    Rgs,
    Nikator from Japan

    www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-King/6702/Cal89_Zwyro.jpg

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    UNKNOWN_USER
    Apprentice 0 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 8:30 p.m. 12 Oct 2002, 8:30 p.m.
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    great watch and photo--thanks!

    someone had one at the Collectors Meeting, too. I wonder how many were made?

    Regards,
    Michael

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 10:50 p.m. 12 Oct 2002, 10:50 p.m.
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    Me made a little research...

    There was a time when some Cal.89 Zwyro watches were on the market. Collector collegues found out the follwing. Mr. Zwyssig former technical director of IWC ran a service company besides his job at IWC (I wonder why that was possible) called ZWYRO AG. IWC gave also watches for repair outhouse to ZWYRO. Mr. Zwyssig bought 34 (or 36 - that's the other figure we heard) and they were gilted and handgraved (some said by his doughter; Mr. Jäger told me at the meeting it was his nephew when I remember well) at the ZWYRO AG.
    I have seen 5 of them in my life: my own the one at the meeting, Mr. Nikator's one and 2 at the sellers home where I bought mine.
    There are some differerences: in one lot the 2 big wheels of the Cal.89 are NOT gilted. Besides that I compared the 2 at the sellers home with a big big microscope: the work is amazing: I codn't see any difference!

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    HIROTA Masayuki
    Connoisseur 250 posts
    13 Oct 2002, 8:25 a.m. 13 Oct 2002, 8:25 a.m.
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    Thanks to Dr.Goerter...

    Nothing have I heard about Zwyro Cal.89 except information from
    Dr.Goerter. At least, Three Zwyro models are to be found in Japan.
    (I've heard one has Gold case) But who have concealed?

    There's little point to me whether rare or not , Simply it's pleasant
    enough to share its aesthetics with IWC connoisseurs.

    I appreciate to Dr. Goerter, Dr.Sawai and Mr.Earlyiwc.

    Regards,
    Nikator from Japan

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    Rolf Birkenkaemper
    Insider 53 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 6:55 p.m. 12 Oct 2002, 6:55 p.m.
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    If we were to combine our numbers..

    we might come up with the exact total.
    Mine has movement# 1932219 and case# 1978733. This brings the forum total to 6 unless I bought my watch from Hans Goerter's source, too.

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 7:15 p.m. 12 Oct 2002, 7:15 p.m.
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    You are right!

    The forthcoming value of a watch or even a profit should be a think we don't discuss! We are collectors and no dealers!
    Well, when this Zwyro Cal289 came to me it has its ordinary Ref.810-cast and an ordinary SS-back. I was really in trouble esp. when I thought of a discussion I had with the head of the watch service at WEMPE here in my town. We ware talking about display backs and he said: "Its not so important that you see a movement, it's much more important that YOU know what within a case".
    Even though I ordered a display back for the Zwyro :=)

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    12 Oct 2002, 7:40 p.m. 12 Oct 2002, 7:40 p.m.
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    Welcome to the Zwyro family!

    Movement number: 1935033
    Case number: 2004407

    How did you count that 6???

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    Marco Schönenenberger
    Connoisseur 221 posts
    14 Oct 2002, 3:25 a.m. 14 Oct 2002, 3:25 a.m.
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    Zwyro edition

    Very near yours (probably the same source)
    case 1'978'763
    mov 1'932'716

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    HIROTA Masayuki
    Connoisseur 250 posts
    17 Oct 2002, 3:50 a.m. 17 Oct 2002, 3:50 a.m.
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    Thanks, We'll check two Zwyro

    at the next meeting in TOKYO!

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