• 17 Apr 2019, 11:10 a.m.

    yes it happend to me...

    I got an AT Ocean from an auction (posted it here a weeks ago too) but as it
    turn out to be an 35 mm (!) and not the one I expected..

    But alas no harm done, and no problem because I got it cheap, but my wife
    didn't fancy it, so I put it online for sale..

    someone was interested and wanted to buy it ....GREAT I thought..

    but the buyer asked me before he would transferr the money if I could show him
    the shipping sheet (as a garantee that I would ship the item to him). I went
    to the postaloffice and filled in the forms and got the receit, wich I
    photographed and then mailed to him....

    then the shit hit the fan .....

    he had trouble transferring the sum he said.. I said do not worry im still at
    the postoffice I await the transaction, before I leave there...

    you can guess the outcome... the postaloffice closed, and I asked for my
    pakkage back.. but they said it was propperty of PTTPOST now and they could
    not return it to me.

    the buyer mailed that there was a server problem at his bank and would sort it
    out (because he was a man of thrust and honour) reading that I knew the story
    would not end well for me.. it was goning to take longer and finally he mailed
    that he would sort it out and go to the bank to attend to it tomorrow. next
    day some mails reached me like don't worry and he would transfer it (even send
    my banknr to him, if that was easier). at last I send a mail to him:

    youre not going to pay me for the IWC-watch I send you in good faith....are
    you? and no reply since....

    still waiting on the transfer two days later... I told my story to police and
    PTTPOST (the transporter) and hopefully because I shipped it nsured and with
    track and trace, they send it back (no harm done then, else that my watch
    travelled the whole earth) if no one signs for the package...

    but if not, I have lost the watch and had a hard lesson ....

    PLEASE DO NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE I MADE..

    "no good deed goes unpunished"

  • Graduate
    17 Apr 2019, 12:10 p.m.

    Sorry to hear, Bas! I certainly hope that this story will end good for you.

    I had a very similar experience half a year ago when I sold one of my watches
    (an IWC AT, too). Mostly buyers from France are quite aggressive and two of
    them tried the exact same thing. They even sent fake passport copies and so
    on. I just did not do it and I would never ship a watch without seeing the
    money before.

  • Graduate
    17 Apr 2019, 1:14 p.m.

    Thats bad news, Bas. Sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed its really just a big
    mess up at the bank... but as he does not reply to your mails anymore it
    probably is not.

    Always thought that people interessted in watches (especially that special
    kind of watch you´ve sold) are truthworthy, honest people... but you live and
    learn. Very sad.

  • 17 Apr 2019, 3:07 p.m.

    Sad to hear Bas, I hope you get it back.

    If not, I hope you have the casenumber somewhere written down, maybe you can
    make it more difficult to sell the watch again.

  • Apprentice
    17 Apr 2019, 3:17 p.m.

    Sorry to hear of your circumstance. Thank you for sharing, as hopefully it
    will benefit others. It is difficult to process the feelings associated with
    the act of uncivilized criminals. Fortunately in the bigger picture this will
    be an insignificant event that caused no dire trauma. Live and learn indeed.

  • Master
    17 Apr 2019, 5:31 p.m.

    Sorry to read you tale of woe, Bas. Hope it works out, but I am doubtful.

  • Insider
    17 Apr 2019, 6:10 p.m.

    So sorry to read this Bas. Thank you for sharing and hopefully we can all be a
    bit wiser in our transactions from it.

    I'm hoping a positive resolution will come out of this for you.

  • Master
    17 Apr 2019, 6:14 p.m.

    So sorry to hear of this Bas.

    It's tragic :o(

  • Master
    18 Apr 2019, 2:40 p.m.

    Damn, I hope indeed you get it sorted Bas! Incredible how these ^&^$%% rip
    you off!

    Regards, Bob

  • Master
    18 Apr 2019, 5:55 p.m.

    Bas, I'm sorry to hear that it turned out that way.

    Of course he wanted to let you make the first move. Because he knew that
    you're already in the transaction then and cannot step back.

    Otherwise that "Guarantee receipt" he wanted you to send him online wouldn't
    be a guarantee.

    There's too many fraud and bad people out there. Nowadays one has to really
    take care of who to deal with.

    Tough lessons though. I'm really sorry to hear. That's why I'm always very
    nervous buying and selling online with people I don't know and trust.

    And thanks for sharing. So we know one more thing to take care of for our next
    deals.

  • Graduate
    21 Apr 2019, 11:28 a.m.

    So sorry to hear that! hope it works out

  • Graduate
    21 Apr 2019, 2:43 p.m.

    I am really sorry to hear this.... :(

    i have only sold once a watch over the net and did not ship it before I got
    paid though...

    hopefully you will get it back...

    let us know

    cheers

  • Graduate
    1 Jul 2019, 9:45 a.m.

    Sorry to hear.

    Are there any updates to this?

  • 1 Jul 2019, 5:25 p.m.

    Yup, lost money and faith in some people..

    but then again... "its only money"....

    cheers