• Apprentice
    27 Jun 2021, 2:20 p.m.

    Here is my part 2 of the Ocean 2000 vs. Ocean BUND study.

    As the titanium strap was optional, it was delivered in a separate box.

    In addition, the Ocean BUND comes with other special accessories such as an
    extra-long Velcro strap, a screwdriver with a NATO stock number in special
    packaging, a strap changing tool with BUndeswehr (BWB) marking, and a special
    box and instruction manual. If you order an extract from the archives from
    IWC, the field "delivered to" is marked VDO Mannesmann.

    With regard to water resistance, IWC only specifies 300 metres for the Ocean
    BUND, and the eponymous 2000 metres for the Ocean 2000. One reason for this is
    the thinner and flatter glass of the Ocean BUND. The Ocean 2000 has a curved
    glass.

    The flat glass of the BUND

    ...and the curved glass of the ocean
    2000

    Both watches are unique for me.

    The Ocean 2000 as an important milestone in the history of IWC and the Ocean
    BUND, because each of these watches tells its own story from its hard service
    in the special forces of the German Navy. Oh if only these watches could speak
    to us....

    Cheers,

    Sascha

  • Connoisseur
    27 Jun 2021, 4:45 p.m.

    Thanks, Sascha, for a nice and informative post! I love to see detailed
    pictures like this. I can see one further small differance berween these
    fantastic watches, can you find it too?

    Best regards,

    Henrik

  • Apprentice
    27 Jun 2021, 4:56 p.m.

    Hi Henrik,

    one other detail is the position of the date window. But iam not so sure that
    is in general a difference between the Ocean BUND and the Ocean 2000? I've
    seen an Ocean BUND with a similar date window position like on my Ref. 3504.

    What do you think?

    Cheers,

    Sascha

  • Connoisseur
    27 Jun 2021, 5:28 p.m.

    Hi, I think there are a few more differences: as far as I know, the Bund date
    window was always in the same position as yours although the position on non-
    Bund dials did vary depending on the movement.
    Another difference is that some Bunds had red 3H in a red circle while
    civilian dials some were T Swiss Made T.

    The nylon strap was also available in grey for the Bund.

    Here is a picture showing the different dials. Unfortunately I cannot recall
    where it came from, but I do have some narrative, below the picture:

    The dial No.1, shown above, is the oldest one. It is only used now when the
    original watch is sent in for repair, with that dial.

    Dials No. 2 and No. 3 belong together. If you have a closer look to the dial
    opening you will see that its position is slightly different. The reason for
    this is that IWC used movement calibre 375 in the first OCEAN 2000 watches,
    which was based on ETA calibre 2890. Later on, IWC used calibre 37521, based
    on ETA calibre 2892A2. These two movements have differences, one of which is
    the size of the date indicator ring. When IWC does a repair on an OCEAN 2000,
    it often is necessary to change the movement from calibre 375 to calibre
    37521. A slightly different dial is necessary in such an instance. Dial No. 4
    is that one that IWC uses least.

    The "BUND"-dials and hands are also shown in the above picture. Please note
    that IWC does not sell the "BUND" spare parts separately to private persons;
    these spare parts are used for certain in-house-repairs only. The main-reason
    for this is that IWC sold the watches to the "Bundeswehr" only. But this also
    is done in order to stop the production of "marriages" which sometimes are
    increasingly found.

    Here are a couple of mine showing some of the other differences.

  • Apprentice
    27 Jun 2021, 6:40 p.m.

    Thanks a lot for this perfect and complete informations!

    Exactly this kind of details are the gold nuggets in collecting those
    wonderful pieces.

    Thanks again,

    Cheers,

    Sascha

  • Connoisseur
    27 Jun 2021, 8:33 p.m.

    Hi again,

    I had missed the difference in the position of the date window, thanks
    Stanford four your excellent explenation of this. What I noted is that the
    font on the date wheel is different, no doubt because the calibre is
    different.

    Enjoy your beautiful IWC:s. I am not at all envious, just so you know. Not at
    all ;)

    Henrik

  • Apprentice
    27 Jun 2021, 8:50 p.m.

    Guys, i've checked the papers of my Ocean 2000 shown above. It's not the
    mentioned Ref. 3504 (which is still in my watch box). It's an early Ref. 3500
    (cal. 375) wich was converted to strap generation 3 during a service a couple
    of
    years ago.
    That could explain the position of the date window and the date font.

    Cheers,

    Sascha