• Insider
    3 Feb 2021, 10:40 a.m.

    latest
    addition to my watch box

    i had my difficulties with the IWC watches from the eighties,

    but finally i got over it.

    br

    Cromagnonman

  • Master
    3 Feb 2021, 3:21 p.m.

    What a beauty - I think these pd watches were so ahead of their time, that
    they are finaly being fully appreciated now!

    Congratulations :o)

  • Master
    4 Feb 2021, 9:10 a.m.

    Congrats on that Titanchrono.

    The ref. 3704 with the screwed crown, the nice decorated movement and the
    micro adjustment clasp is the rarest variant.

    Mine has just got an case/bracelet overhaul by laser and freshly shot blasted.

    IWC has done a great job, it looks like new now again.

    Some photos before/after and the movement.

  • Apprentice
    26 Feb 2021, 4:24 a.m.

    Once again I am late to the party. While most things "IWC" interest me, my
    true OBSESSION is for all things IWC Porsche Design Titan automatic
    chronograph! Congratulations on your acquisition.

    Judging by the dial, your watch is a reference 3700 and dates from the
    mid-1980's. Originally it would have come with a bracelet whose links were
    held by a single pin on the backside of the link. Be happy that you have a
    later bracelet with a pin pushed through the sides, as these are very sturdy.
    The single-pin (and subsequent double-pin) link designs were not great, as
    they wore down with use over time and failed to hold the bracelet together.

    The dial on yours is my favorite. Some folks love it because it has the most
    writing of any of the six dial variations. We Titan "nerds" call it the "full
    signature dial." Those who do not favor this dial sometimes call it the "wall
    of text," and prefer the dials with minimal writing. I hope you are in the
    "love it" camp!

    The appreciation for, and discussion of the Titan automatic chronograph seems
    sparse on this or any other forum (which is part of the reason I seldom visit
    here anymore). Granted, the Titan was first sold in 1981 and continued
    production until the Porsche Design partnership ended in 1997, so it seems
    forgotten over the last couple decades. Most of the attention for Porsche
    Design watches goes to the Ocean 2000 dive watch, and to the Compass watch.
    Admittedly, both of those are fantastic watches featuring amazing
    capabilities. Still, it's the Titan automatic chronograph that is my favorite,
    not just among other IWC's but among the hundreds of watches I have collected
    since 1986!

    Hope you continue to enjoy yours! My "full signature dial" version says Hi!

    edit: Or not...I have trouble attaching photos to this forum, but it looks
    like yours, so no surprises! ;)

  • Graduate
    26 Feb 2021, 7:19 a.m.

    I agree that it is Ref. 3700. I own one with the same "full signature dial".
    However, mine also has a "TITAN" inscription on the case:

  • Apprentice
    26 Feb 2021, 7:27 a.m.

    Your "TITAN" link is correct. Mine is missing. It was either a special request
    from the buyer (same link at 12 o'clock side), or replaced during a service by
    IWC. IWC frequently "updated" older watches to more closely resemble the newer
    models.
    Personally, I prefer the TITAN link. Unfortunately, the extra TITAN link I
    have is the later screw-on type, but my watch head is the older "pins into
    tab" version.
    So many variations...

  • Insider
    26 Feb 2021, 11:05 a.m.

    Hi Time Exposure,

    you are completly right. The original reference was 3700. See the picture of
    the caseback.

  • Apprentice
    26 Feb 2021, 5:29 p.m.

    Judging by the serial number, I guessed the year correctly too! Likely
    produced in or very near 1985, according to the "Date Your IWC" website.
    Shortly after yours was produced, IWC modified the dial by removing the "pd"
    logo from below "PORSCHE DESIGN." To be fair, this was about the time that IWC
    switched engravings on the bracelet clasp from "IWC" to "pd."

    I do not know with certainty if the constant changes to the dial were the
    result of ongoing battles between IWC and Porsche Design for "visibility," or
    if there were different dials for different markets (say, where Porsche had a
    greater presence than IWC or vice-versa). It is my dream to visit with David
    Seyffer (IWC Museum curator) and extract his resources for the "complete"
    IWC/Porsche Design story, or quiz Jack Freedman of Superior Watch Service
    about his intimate knowledge of the Titan automatic chronograph. But I assume
    Jack is very busy providing watch repair services that live up to the name
    "Superior." Both of the Titans he has serviced for me (that I still have) are
    running within a few seconds per week. And Herr Seyffer does touch on much of
    the relationship in his doctoral thesis (some of which I have painstakenly
    translated from German using a Google translator!).

    I have an uneasy feeling that perhaps IWC doesn't reflect fondly on the times
    they were in partnership with Porsche Design. Both sides wanted the original
    20-year partnership to end as scheduled in 1997, with IWC moving forward with
    the GST line, and PD purchasing Eterna to fabricate their designs. The IWC
    partnership with Porsche Design should be celebrated for the accomplishments
    achieved. Although taste in style is subjective, no one can deny the greatness
    of engineering achieved by IWC from 1977-1997. And personally, I think the
    style is absolutely fantastic, even today.

  • 2 Mar 2021, 7:16 a.m.

    my 3704

    With the micro adjustment on the clasp