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Jones Calibre Pocket Watch

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  • last reply by Sascha Glistau 15 Oct 2021
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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    15 Sep 2021, 3:02 p.m. 15 Sep 2021, 3:02 p.m.
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    Hello everyone, I was fortunate enough to come across this IWC movement. From
    my brief research it seems to be an early Pattern B key wind. Looking for any
    additional information about this watch as well as the names that are
    engraved.

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3576 posts
    15 Sep 2021, 4:42 p.m. 15 Sep 2021, 4:42 p.m.
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    Wow, what a find, one of the very first IWC 's made. A number 603 is known and
    has the same configuration.

    Many of the movements had names inscribed on them, instead of "International
    Watch Company": Greenleaf, Craig, Romney, Stuyvesant, Bradley and Burns. These
    mostly were names of Jones' family members or related places. For example,
    Greenleaf was Jones' brother and Craig was his mother's maiden name. Some have
    speculated that these people helped Jones with his initial funding, but there
    is no proof of that.

    You can rea more in this informative post about Jones movements :

    forum.iwc.com/t/f-a-jones-the-man-and-the-mystery/29812/#post-230497

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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    15 Sep 2021, 5:08 p.m. 15 Sep 2021, 5:08 p.m.
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    thank you very much for that information. So, a couple of questions: what do
    you mean by 'a number 603 is known'? Itsounds like a lot of the early
    movements are no longer around, and in my research I read that the movement
    numbering system started with either 500 or 501, is that correct?

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3576 posts
    15 Sep 2021, 5:32 p.m. 15 Sep 2021, 5:32 p.m.
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    Indeed, very few of the numbers lower than 1000 still are known to excist. I
    meant that there is another one like yours, with the serial number 603 that is
    known to excist and has a similar layout ( pattern B ) as yours.

    Indeed we think that the numbering started at 500.

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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    15 Sep 2021, 5:59 p.m. 15 Sep 2021, 5:59 p.m.
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    I bought this on a hunch yesterday and don't have it in my hand yet but am
    very excited to receive it after reserching last night. So being a non-
    collector (although I certainly appreciate a fine watch) the question for me
    to figure out is, what do I do with it....

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    Tilo
    Master 3249 posts
    24 Sep 2021, 3:08 p.m. 24 Sep 2021, 3:08 p.m.
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    Looks like it would love to have a service, a case and a dial. ;-)

    congratulations!!!

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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    25 Sep 2021, 2:11 a.m. 25 Sep 2021, 2:11 a.m.
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    It most definitly could use a service and a case. The dial it
    has...

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3201 posts
    28 Sep 2021, 9:46 p.m. 28 Sep 2021, 9:46 p.m.
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    Great start to what promises to be a challenging yet rewarding restoration
    project

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    29 Sep 2021, 5:51 p.m. 29 Sep 2021, 5:51 p.m.
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    It is just great to see here a very early pattern 'B' key wind Jones.

    The dial you show isabsolutely a genuine typical Jones dial but the very
    early 'B' Jones had another version of the Jones dials we know.

    It is depicted here.

    Best regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3576 posts
    13 Oct 2021, 8:17 a.m. 13 Oct 2021, 8:17 a.m.
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    Found the brother, with nr 1119

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    13 Oct 2021, 8:21 a.m. 13 Oct 2021, 8:21 a.m.
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    Well done Tonny!

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    15 Oct 2021, 3:44 p.m. 15 Oct 2021, 3:44 p.m.
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    Very nice. It's a shame that both brothers are missing their cases.

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2662 posts
    15 Oct 2021, 4:12 p.m. 15 Oct 2021, 4:12 p.m.
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    These early movements were all exported to the US without a case.

    Many were cased in the US , using gold and coin silver cases but some have
    never be cased at all.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)

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    unclepaulie
    Apprentice 6 posts
    15 Oct 2021, 4:15 p.m. 15 Oct 2021, 4:15 p.m.
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    That is certainly interesting. My impression was that all of them had cases
    which were later removed for their gold or silver melt value.

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    Sascha Glistau
    Apprentice 87 posts
    15 Oct 2021, 4:53 p.m. 15 Oct 2021, 4:53 p.m.
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    Wow, pocket watches are not really my thing. But what you show here is just
    great and wonderful IWC history! Great!

    Cheers,

    Sascha

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