• Connoisseur
    11 Feb 2018, 12:49 p.m.

    Sorry for not phrasing and/or reading precise enough:

    Do you assume/know that Mk. 11 without full antimagnetic shielding have seen actual military service and if so as Mk. 11 6B/346 or only downgradedas watch, wrist, general service? 

    I could imagine that watches downgraded to General Service were equipped with Hamilton dials: The Hamilton dial is cheaper. And the Hamilton dial would indicate "Hey, this is no navigitional wristwatch 6B/346, but a downgraded one".

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

  • Master
    11 Feb 2018, 2:11 p.m.
  • Master
    12 Feb 2018, 8:25 a.m.

    No worries John.  You did not start anything.  This discussion is old and recurring everytime a Mark 11 surfaces with the wrong dial/hands.  
    The reality is that, irrespective of what we believe Cat says (which is not entirely clear) if a watch that once had all the specifications of a Mark 11 now does not, can't be called a Mark 11.  It has to be called something else.  I have suggested Mark 10 and 1/3.

  • Master
    12 Feb 2018, 2:40 p.m.

    10 and 1/3 is not entirely clear to me either clep (i'd have thought 2/3 rds), thankfully i'm a more simplistic soul and have reached the conclusion that the 
    person who pays the piper (mod) can call and do whatever they want with their own property. 

    A retired remi watchmaker of great fame once phrased this conundrum in sharper context...he serviced a dozen '48's for me with a gs in the pile (that's the way it was yesteryear), i asked about the 10 and a third and he asked me did i think the british military were not aware that the gs is a chronometre....i laughed at his very English succinct reply. 

  • Apprentice
    15 Feb 2018, 7:21 p.m.

    Does anyone know of anyone that has an original dial and hands for a mk11 that's for sale so i can return it to the way it was ment to be.

  • Master
    16 Feb 2018, 10:50 a.m.

    Hi John, 
    You have two choices: 
    1 - search the Net for correct vintage Mark 11 dial/hands.  It's a long shot, but not impossible.
    2 - send the Mark 11 to IWC, via an IWC Authorized Dealer, to have a new dial/hands installed.

  • Master
    16 Feb 2018, 11:25 a.m.

    I have chosen option 2. and am very satisfied.

    derjonk.de/lizard/raf-48-1.jpg

    derjonk.de/lizard/raf-48-sl.jpg

  • Apprentice
    16 Feb 2018, 12:34 p.m.

    Looking great  . But what's the cost involved in getting new hands and face and service ?

  • Master
    16 Feb 2018, 5:33 p.m.
  • Apprentice
    20 Feb 2018, 11:05 a.m.

    But if I was looking to sell my watch I wouldn't know if it was better to get new dial and hands or leave as is . So was asking what cost was to see whats better.

  • Master
    20 Feb 2018, 4:30 p.m.

    Hi John,
    As is your watch is worth a fraction of a correct Mark 11.  Sending the watch to IWC for an overall, including new dial/hands will not be cheap, but will increase its value. 
    If you are "fixing" your watch just to sell it, making a profit will depend how much you paid for it, but since you apparently got it as a gift, your investment in it will be well worth it, even if you sell it cheap.  Just my $0.02.

  • Connoisseur
    20 Feb 2018, 9:54 p.m.