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Need Help Indentifying an Heirloom, Please

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    15 Jan 2020, 3:20 p.m. 15 Jan 2020, 3:20 p.m.
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    Hey Everyone,

    First post here. Recently I was gifted a watch from my great grandfather and
    am hoping to date/identify this gorgeous (and fully functional) piece,
    please.

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    Mr. Terry Russell
    Master 771 posts
    15 Jan 2020, 6:46 p.m. 15 Jan 2020, 6:46 p.m.
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    Congrats on a very nice watch.

    In order to date the watch, you'll need the case and movement numbers.

    Cheers!

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    15 Jan 2020, 7:39 p.m. 15 Jan 2020, 7:39 p.m.
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    Thanks for the reply, @Mr. Terry Russel. Sorry for the dumb Q, but what is the
    easiest way to get said numbers? (I presume by opening the case.)

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    Mr. Terry Russell
    Master 771 posts
    15 Jan 2020, 7:56 p.m. 15 Jan 2020, 7:56 p.m.
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    Yes, the watch will need to be opened. The case number will be inside the
    cover and the movement number will be engraved on the movement itself, usually
    near the balance wheel. Assuming your watch has a pressure fit back, you might
    want to get a watchmaker to remove it. It's not difficult unless youve never
    done it, in which case you can scratch the case or jab the tool into your hand
    (ouch!)

    Regards

    Terry

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    15 Jan 2020, 9:43 p.m. 15 Jan 2020, 9:43 p.m.
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    Thank you very much. I'll reply to the thread once I have said info.

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3193 posts
    17 Jan 2020, 5:14 p.m. 17 Jan 2020, 5:14 p.m.
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    Very nice IWC watch

    It is either Caliber 83 or 88.

    Cal 83 was in production from 1930 to 1947 And Cal 88 from 1946 to 1964

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    19 Jan 2020, 9:29 p.m. 19 Jan 2020, 9:29 p.m.
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    Thanks for the nod and help, Mark.

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    Clepsydra
    Master 2974 posts
    22 Jan 2020, 12:11 p.m. 22 Jan 2020, 12:11 p.m.
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    It's probably a Ref 410 with a cal 83 movement

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    Clepsydra
    Master 2974 posts
    22 Jan 2020, 12:15 p.m. 22 Jan 2020, 12:15 p.m.
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    Like this one.

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    18 Feb 2020, 1:21 p.m. 18 Feb 2020, 1:21 p.m.
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    Hi All. I was finally able to have the case back removed. Please find attached
    images for reference. Would love help identifying exact year, make, model,
    value,
    etc.

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3193 posts
    18 Feb 2020, 6:18 p.m. 18 Feb 2020, 6:18 p.m.
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    Beautiful watch and I can confirm it is Cal 83.
    The caseback number gives a manufacture date of approximately 1941.

    You now have enough information to research The Internet of Things for a
    value.

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    18 Feb 2020, 6:35 p.m. 18 Feb 2020, 6:35 p.m.
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    Thanks so much, Mark. Apologies as I'm new to IWC, but is there a particular
    model name or number? Moreover, is it possible to discern where this might
    have been manufactured, sold, bought, or if it's solid gold or just plated? (I
    promise, I'll soon run out of questions.)

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3193 posts
    18 Feb 2020, 6:58 p.m. 18 Feb 2020, 6:58 p.m.
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    Esteemed member Clepsydra gives you a possible reference number for this
    model. Please scroll back up, for his previous post.

    IWC sometimes stamps the number in the case back and sometimes not, which is
    the case with your watch.

    The only way to tell the model number is to compare with period catalogues,
    which is a tedious process. These watches, as a whole, were referred to as
    Caiber 83s.

    .585 as stamped inside the casebake is equivalent to 14K gold.

    IWC watches are manufactured in Schaffhausen, Switzerland

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    cgonda
    Apprentice 7 posts
    18 Feb 2020, 7:32 p.m. 18 Feb 2020, 7:32 p.m.
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    Sir, you're a gentleman and scholar. Thank you kindly for your patience and
    help. Wish more boards were this smooth.

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