• 7 Aug 2011, 3:43 p.m.

    My two cents on this issue are simple:

    1. I like this watch. It looks good and will perform well. To me, its styling reflects an extension of IWC's heritage. It reflects, most importantly, IWC's return to titanium --extraordinarily important, especially given that IWC was THE pioneer in use of this metal.

    2. I do not like the Ingenieur name. Ingenieurs should be amagnetic. But, still, to me it's a really nice watch.

  • Master
    7 Aug 2011, 11:59 p.m.

    The name Ingie and the bezel with the five locating holes, Is that bezel unique to Ingies whther real or style Ingie that are not AM? I know some genuine Ingies did not have such a bezel.

  • Master
    8 Aug 2011, 9:58 a.m.

    I'm afraid I'm in the "anti" camp on this one. For me, this looks far too much like a Hublot, the busy dial is the antithesis of what I like in IWCs (clarity, a purity of function) and it makes a mockery of the "tradition" of the Ingenieur (although the recent "tradition" for this line is of course to forego the antimagnetic Faraday cage).
    I do, however, like the return of titanium. Perhaps this bodes well for the Pilot's updates next year...

  • Master
    8 Aug 2011, 10 a.m.

    I'm afraid I'm in the "anti" camp on this one. For me, this looks far too much like a Hublot, the busy dial is the antithesis of what I like in IWCs (clarity, a purity of function) and it makes a mockery of the "tradition" of the Ingenieur (although the recent "tradition" for this line is of course to forego the antimagnetic Faraday cage).
    I do, however, like the return of titanium. Perhaps this bodes well for the Pilot's updates next year...

  • Connoisseur
    8 Aug 2011, 11:50 a.m.

    Agree with you.
    The references 3508 and 3519 for example are examplary for engineering & design done by IWC, IMHO.

  • Master
    8 Aug 2011, 3:42 p.m.

    I'll keep quiet as I ordered one already. :)

    Love it in Titanium.

    Cheers,
    sc

  • Master
  • Apprentice
    3 Sep 2011, 6:33 a.m.

    I'm afraid it looks like a cheap watch from Fossil. It has that "trendy" look that Richemont seems to be peppering across all their brands. The lack of a Faraday cage is very disappointing because it turns the Ingenieur from an engineered tool watch into a fashion-driven watch. Why even have the lightening bolt running through the name? It's only false advertising in my opinion. Maybe the lightening bolt represents how fast IWC is abandoning their brand's past values for chasing easy profits. What was once the "Watchmaker's Watch" is now becoming just another status brand...and that saddens me.

    Though I have a 3227 AMG on my wrist now, I'm not thrilled that the 2005 redesign has a snap on crystal bezel. Why have the holes there if they are not used to unscrew a bezel? What made IWC so admirable in the past was that form followed function. The randomness of where those holes fell was part of the design brilliance of the Genta original. Now they are symmetrically placed without even being functional as bezel hour markers. How can IWC honestly say "Engineered for Men" when they are being driven more by style and fashion. The leadership of IWC should be very careful about following fashion and trends and get back to the company's roots of exemplary, purposeful design and manufacturing.

    I seriously doubt Rolex would ever market a Milgauss with a display back and that is the secret to their success. They still believe authenticity is key to their brand's identity.

  • Master
    3 Sep 2011, 6:53 a.m.

    I think the holes have a design purpose, they represent the protection the inner case provides otherwise why five holes? Why not four, six or seven? And if they represent protection, it is all round protection therefore the alignment of the five holes do not matter.

    I would like to see the Ingenieur name as well as the five holes, only on those watches that have magnetic protection.

    Cheers from the cellar

  • Apprentice
    4 Sep 2011, 10:47 p.m.
  • Master
    4 Sep 2011, 11:06 p.m.

    I said all I had to say about non-Ingenieur Ingenieurs, but I wish to add the following regarding the bezel of the Ref 3227.
    If you appreciate the lack of symmetry of the Ref 1832 bezel, as I do, I wish to bring to your attention that it is possible to install the bezel of the Ref 3227 in such a way that the 5 holes are asymmetrical.
    Actually, if you remove the bezel, you will have to work it out, through trial and error, to install it symmetrically with one hole at the 12 position.

  • Master
    5 Sep 2011, 12:30 a.m.