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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    15 Jul 2010, 10:55 a.m. 15 Jul 2010, 10:55 a.m.
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    Anyone know anything about this watch? It's 19 jewels, 18kt gold case, self-winding. Case number 29817. Pics Included ...

    www.curpiercompany.com/Files/iwcgood/1.jpg

    www.curpiercompany.com/Files/iwcgood/2.jpg

    www.curpiercompany.com/Files/iwcgood/3.jpg

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    Clepsydra
    Master 2974 posts
    15 Jul 2010, 12:50 p.m. 15 Jul 2010, 12:50 p.m.
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    Please recheck the case number?

    The number you posted is from a case produced circa 1888.
    Do you have the movement number?

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 1:10 a.m. 16 Jul 2010, 1:10 a.m.
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    Please recheck the case number?

    Where is the movement number located? The case number, I had my jeweler open the watch, and write it down for me.

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    15 Jul 2010, 3:55 p.m. 15 Jul 2010, 3:55 p.m.
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    I suspect the case is made by Cresarrow

    In the early part of the 20th Century IWC sold movements to Henry Blank in America and his firm Cresarrow Watch Co. made the cases.

    You will need to open up the case again and record the movement number and any makings in the inner case back.

    There is some more details about Cresarrow on the link below.

    Cheers from the cellar

    Henry Blank & Co and Cresarrow

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 2:50 a.m. 16 Jul 2010, 2:50 a.m.
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    I suspect the case is made by Cresarrow

    Although I have not opened the case yet myself ... the jeweler wrote the following symbol on the piece of paper he gave me ...

    www.gregsteer.net/IWC/Cresarrow/CresarrowMarkUSPTO.gif

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    Greg Steer
    Master 2688 posts
    15 Jul 2010, 4:45 p.m. 15 Jul 2010, 4:45 p.m.
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    Certainly is made by Cresarrow (nt)

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 8 a.m. 16 Jul 2010, 8 a.m.
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    I suspect the case is made by Cresarrow

    I visually looked at the movement ... It said International Watch Company on it. The store is know for it's estate pieces ... and an older gentleman takes pride in repairing and servicing the watches.

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    Michael Friedberg
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    16 Jul 2010, 5:05 p.m. 16 Jul 2010, 5:05 p.m.
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    yes, Cresarrow case and a redial too...

    ..also I'm not sure Cresarrow cases were used by IWC on automatic movements. Given the redial I'd be afraid that the watch might be "marriage" --that is cobbled together out of disparate parts, after the fact.

    Regards,
    Michael

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    17 Jul 2010, 7:20 a.m. 17 Jul 2010, 7:20 a.m.
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    yes, Cresarrow case and a redial too...

    Ahh, so I really need to open the case and get the movement number. Does a redial take away from the value of the watch? Also, it's self winding, is that considered the same as an automatic? I thought they were different. Is there a way to tell the potential value of the watch?

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 2:35 p.m. 16 Jul 2010, 2:35 p.m.
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    yes, Cresarrow case and a redial too...

    Got the case open, here's what it says ...

    International Watch Co.
    Swiss
    19 Jewels
    6 Adjustm's

    Movement number: 679213
    (hard to read but, I'm pretty sure that's it)

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 11:35 a.m. 16 Jul 2010, 11:35 a.m.
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    Picture also ...

    Here is a picture of the movement to go with above post.

    www.curpiercompany.com/Files/movement.jpg

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    UNKNOWN_USER
    Apprentice 0 posts
    17 Jul 2010, midnight 17 Jul 2010, midnight
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    that's not an automatic movement....

    ...it may be a cal. 75 from about 1917, which would fit more with the style. I need to check my movement reference sources, and I'm away from them right now.

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 11:25 a.m. 16 Jul 2010, 11:25 a.m.
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    that's not an automatic movement....

    Okay, thanks for the info. So besides the redial, is it possible that it's an original example?

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    roberto muraglia
    Master 2108 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 10:20 p.m. 16 Jul 2010, 10:20 p.m.
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    I guess MF is right all the way

    as usual.

    to support your search for info, here the tables from fournitures n°7 taken by the Vintage Catalogue Project whose curator is always our MF.

    It should be a cal 75, lepine, hw - manual.

    I do also believe, not to say, sure, dial is re-stamped and hands also have been heavily restored.

    Regards,

    roberto

    The vintage catalogue project

    i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/flyrobyfly/9af086ce.jpg

    i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm101/flyrobyfly/a0ba8b4d.jpg

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    Catherine
    Master 988 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 9:15 p.m. 16 Jul 2010, 9:15 p.m.
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    It's not a foregone conclusion that the....

    .....dials been redone, especially if it's pot, difficult to say from the pic's provided. I would'nt do anything too hasty with the dial Adam....other than have your watchmaker ascertain if it's pot or not and if it owns dial feet that marry with the movement.. If you get two ticks then it's a rather unusual(pot sq dial) lot.

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    17 Jul 2010, 8:50 a.m. 17 Jul 2010, 8:50 a.m.
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    It's not a foregone conclusion that the....

    Thanks for the great advice. I'll give him a call later today.
    -Adam

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    Adam Curpier
    Graduate 16 posts
    16 Jul 2010, 2:05 p.m. 16 Jul 2010, 2:05 p.m.
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    Need clarification on what a "Pot" dial is??

    Just need some clarification on what a "pot" dial means, so when I speak to my jeweler about it.

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    Catherine
    Master 988 posts
    17 Jul 2010, 1:15 a.m. 17 Jul 2010, 1:15 a.m.
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    Need clarification on what a "Pot" dial is??

    uk.ask.com/wiki/Vitreous_enamel

    Ask your watchmaker if the feet are original to the dial. Good luck fella.

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