• Apprentice
    17 Jan 2020, 5:25 p.m.

    Hello

    I'm looking to acquire a pre-owned IWC Portuguiser reference Iw500704 from my
    local jewelry shop. It's undated but from the service paper, it's probably
    2015 to 2016. I compared it side by side with a brand new Portuguiser and
    noticed that the pre owned one has off white dial while the new Portuguiser
    seems to have whiter dial. Also, the.numerals on the newer one appears to
    slightly bigger (if I remember correctly). Can anyone shed some light on
    whether iwc updated the design of the dial since the 2015/2016 model?

    I attached a snapshot of the pre owned portugieser automatic. Do you think its
    legit?

  • Master
    17 Jan 2020, 7:39 p.m.

    Quite often differences in dial color are just the light in which to photo was
    taken or the White Balance of the shot was a bit off. If everything else
    checks, out you're good to go. Great watch, btw.

  • Master
    17 Jan 2020, 10:38 p.m.

    One ref. 500704 should look just like any other ref. 500704, any changes would
    necessitate a change in reference number. The watch in your photos ceratinly
    appears to be authentic. I know that movement fakes are on the rise, but this
    one looks very real.

  • Apprentice
    18 Jan 2020, 12:11 a.m.

    Thanks for your reply Ben. Both dials really look a bit different when I
    placed them side by side but the movements appears to be identical. I've been
    told fake watches have improved by leaps and bounds so any further tips would
    be much appreciated.

    Best regards

    Jerry

  • Apprentice
    18 Jan 2020, 2:50 a.m.

    [photo removed for privacy reason]

    for additional
    info, the pre owned watch comes with a repair warranty card like the one above
    (I took a snapshot of the same watch of chrono24). What is bugging me is that
    the original warranty card is not available? Would appreciate any additional
    thoughts before I take the plunge to get this preowned watch.

    Thanks for your help in advance!

  • Graduate
    18 Jan 2020, 7:13 a.m.

    I've checked the casenumber from the warranty card and this one really belongs
    to an IW500704. That the original warranty card is missing doesn't mean
    anything bad, I guess.

    What is more strange, is the different size of the numerals, which can't be
    within watches with the same reference. But maybe, they only seem to be
    different..?

    From the pictures, the watch looks good to me. But at he end, as we always say
    here when it comes to used watches, you " buy the seller". As this is a local
    shop, you should be able to judge, wether it's trustful or not. Listen to your
    feeling.

    Greetings

    Philipp

  • Apprentice
    18 Jan 2020, 7:50 a.m.

    Thanks for
    your reply Thomas. Yeah probably it was just an impression (or my
    mind just playing tricks on me). In fact I just tried to create a collage of
    the two watches (left: known authentic one, right: the preowned one I'm
    looking to buy) and it appears from this photo that the numeral sizes are
    identical?

    With regards to the retailer, they seems legit and stocks lots of other
    preowned watches, including IWC. But as I said, replicas have improved leaps
    and bounds and might even fooled trained eyes so it's probably a good idea to
    ask for 2nd opinions as well..

    Really appreciate all your feedbacks thus far. I guess I just needed a push to
    proceed with my first purchase of a high end watch. Looking forward to joining
    this iwc club
    as an owner soon...

  • Graduate
    18 Jan 2020, 8:37 a.m.

    One more thought: I don't know anything about replicas, but I doubt that the
    powerreserve of a replica watch would last for seven days. That is really long
    and a speciality of IWC! So, if the watch is fully wound and then keeps on
    running for seven days with the powerreserve indicater regularly decreasing,
    it should be genium.

    Or do other forum-members know about fake watches with such a long
    powerreserve?

    Greetings

    Philipp

  • Apprentice
    18 Jan 2020, 10:08 a.m.
  • Apprentice
    18 Jan 2020, 10:13 a.m.

    Good thinking, Philip. I'll try and ask if the retailer is happy to do this
    test and let its power drain for up to 7 days without rewinding...

    BR

    Jerry