• Apprentice
    19 Aug 2021, 9:40 a.m.

    Hello,

    I am looking to purchase my first IWC and is considering the Big Pilot ref
    IW5002. Particularly keen on this reference as it has a more military look as
    compared to the later iterations: 5004, 5009 etc. Also, for the fact that it
    is the first big pilot of the modern era.

    I am aware that the steel version comes in 2 versions: 1) first version with
    the slow beat movement and fish crown and 2) the later version also known as
    the 'transitional' with the probus crown.

    Personally, I am impartial with either movement, and is more swayed towards
    the first version because of the fish crown, therefore I consider it to be
    more original. I might be wrong but I have seen both versions being sold at
    about the same price.

    Is there other factors that I should consider when deciding between the two?
    Is it more costly/hassle to service the slow beat movement? Is the
    transitional model comparatively rarer and was produced less?

    Thanks!

  • Master
    19 Aug 2021, 12:21 p.m.

    The fish crown in the origianl 5002 had to be replaced as as it was defective.
    Unfortunately, when this was done at the factory, the crown was swtiched to
    the Probus crown. You can now get a Fish crown replacement from IWC Service
    Centers, if requested. I would be very caustious, if you acquire the 5002
    with the original defective crown.

  • Apprentice
    19 Aug 2021, 4:37 p.m.

    Are you saying that I should always go for the transitional model as all the
    original 5002 has defective fish crown?

    Website: https://bigpilot.watch/database/5002-transitional

    Saw from the above website that, "Various collectors believe 5002s with a
    serial number 314XXXX and higher are these 'transitional' BPs...".

    How true is this and is there a more definite way to accurately identify
    transitional model?

  • Master
    19 Aug 2021, 5:35 p.m.

    My response was indeed a bit misleading. Both 5002 references, the slow beat
    and the transitional, are iconic, The origianl slow beat came with a fish
    crown, but when it was returend for service IWC would replace the Fish Crown
    with a Probus Crown as the fish had a defect. I happen to have a slow beat.
    The fish crown was exchanged for the Probus, but I was able to get the the
    fish crown back on it in 2018. If you find a slowbeat that otherwise is in
    good condiion and has the Probus Crown or the orginal defective fish crown,
    you can get it upgraded by IWC to the functioning fish crown. I don't know
    and others may be able to join in here, if there is a collectors' prefercne
    for slow beat vs. trnsitional or how many of each were produced. We generally
    don't disuccs value here, so I can't commnent.

    Here is a picture of my BP5002 Slow beat with the newly installed fish crown
    along with the ordignal defective crown and the Probus Corwn that had been
    inslatted upon service years ago. Good luck with you reseach and hunt for a
    5002. It is a prize in my collection.

  • Apprentice
    20 Aug 2021, 11:33 a.m.

    Thanks for the sharing, I hope I can own the 5002 soon.

    That's cool of you to keep all the crown!