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The illusive 5251

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  • last reply by Mr. Zoltan Kovacs 26 Oct 2020
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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    20 Oct 2020, 7:23 a.m. 20 Oct 2020, 7:23 a.m.
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    Hello to all and especially to those wh remember me :=)

    Last week I came across a Portofini 5251 and could resost. I selled one
    approx. 30 years ago and I am courious what numbers are on it. Maybe the
    same?!?

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2716 posts
    20 Oct 2020, 11:49 a.m. 20 Oct 2020, 11:49 a.m.
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    Hello Hans,

    A blast from the past- it is great to see you appear here again! Love the
    Portofino Moonphase Fried Egg. I hope you find the information you seek about
    it.

    Nelson

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    20 Oct 2020, 3 p.m. 20 Oct 2020, 3 p.m.
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    Do you
    remember,
    Nelson?

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    Mr. Thomas Koenig
    Connoisseur 376 posts
    20 Oct 2020, 3:52 p.m. 20 Oct 2020, 3:52 p.m.
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    Welcome back, Hans!

    How long you have been absent? 10 years?

    Regards

    Thomas Koenig

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    Ben
    Master 1956 posts
    20 Oct 2020, 10:56 p.m. 20 Oct 2020, 10:56 p.m.
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    Imagine if it were the same? Well done either way, it is an extraordinary
    watch!

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    21 Oct 2020, 8:42 a.m. 21 Oct 2020, 8:42 a.m.
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    Hallo Mr. Konig,

    we last met at Cologne in the MALZMÜHLE if I remember well.

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    21 Oct 2020, 8:44 a.m. 21 Oct 2020, 8:44 a.m.
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    Hi Ben,

    I will let you know if the numbers are identical.Like a young dog: a run away
    in young days and returned as an old one :=)

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    ADRIAN van der Meijden
    Master 2660 posts
    22 Oct 2020, 12:38 p.m. 22 Oct 2020, 12:38 p.m.
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    Hi Hans,

    How good to see back a dear watch friend.

    I never would have thought you would return, as you were overwhelmed by
    guitars

    We are not far from Christmas and the oldies among us rember your Christmas
    story about your legendary 'missing link', cal 98 Portugieser, ref. 325.

    I have the feeling that you have never let it go.

    Hope to see you back here.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3567 posts
    22 Oct 2020, 8:13 p.m. 22 Oct 2020, 8:13 p.m.
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    Welcome back Hans, for sure not forgotten who you are. As Adrian, I loved the
    story of your Portugieser find.

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    23 Oct 2020, 9:21 a.m. 23 Oct 2020, 9:21 a.m.
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    Hi Adrian,

    I am curious if the Portofino 5251 is the same I selled appr. 30 years ago.

    This 5251 also has a nice story: I found it by Google search in the Internet.
    It was located by a juweler near Dusseldorf. So I phoned him, just to say that
    I would buy the watch. He said there are more that 30 peaople who want to buy
    this watch. No chance? When I'm stressed I am incrdibly good in reacting -
    even lieing. So I told him that my father lost his beloved 5251 (in fact he
    would not spent 100€ for any watch) on a airport and since then he is so sorry
    about that. Next week would be his birthday I I want to paay him something
    back of all HE gave me. The juweler was very impressed and said:" I will sell
    you the watch - what a beautiful story!" The next day I had the watch on my
    wrist. Oh after buying that watch I went into a bank to get me some money.
    When I get back to my car I noticed: I had forgotten the package with the 5251
    in the bank -beside a money automat. I hurried back as fast as I could - it
    still was there!!!

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    23 Oct 2020, 9:26 a.m. 23 Oct 2020, 9:26 a.m.
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    For all who are interested in the real nice story how I found an original
    Portugieser watch - even the so calles "missing link"

    www.goerter.de/IWCFORUM/Finding%20an%20Original%20Portugieser(english).pdf

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    Nelson Herring
    Master 2716 posts
    23 Oct 2020, 12:56 p.m. 23 Oct 2020, 12:56 p.m.
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    A dream for all of us, and a reality for you! Thank you for sharing this
    great story again!

    Nelson

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    Hans Goerter
    Master 1520 posts
    23 Oct 2020, 2:55 p.m. 23 Oct 2020, 2:55 p.m.
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    Hi all,

    it's not the SAME watch I selled 30 years ago. Of course it then has other
    movement no. and case nos.

    It is without any scratch, with a new black croco strap and a seperate clasp.

    I am really happy!!!

    PS: Maybe it's something wrong with the moonphase. I know that you have to
    wind it up to 2 am and back to 11 pm and so on. But here you have to knock on
    the crown a little bit and the moon "walks" one day forward.. Funny! I will go
    to WEMPE and check it.

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    Mark Fleminger
    Master 3193 posts
    23 Oct 2020, 9:37 p.m. 23 Oct 2020, 9:37 p.m.
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    For all who are interested in the real nice story how I found an original
    Portugieser watch - even the so calles "missing link"

    www.goerter.de/IWCFORUM/Finding%20an%20Original%20Portugieser(english).pdf

    What a phenomal find - A true treasure!

    Thank You for sharing this incredible story

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    Bill B.
    Master 6724 posts
    24 Oct 2020, 5:50 p.m. 24 Oct 2020, 5:50 p.m.
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    I forgot about your incredible story. Thanks for sharing again.

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    Mr. Bob Bunnik
    Master 5208 posts
    25 Oct 2020, 10:20 a.m. 25 Oct 2020, 10:20 a.m.
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    Hi Has, great to 'see' you back again and forgetting a 5251 next to an ATM is
    pretty impressive too ;-)

    Kind regards,

    Bob

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    Mr. Zoltan Kovács
    Insider 62 posts
    26 Oct 2020, 9:55 a.m. 26 Oct 2020, 9:55 a.m.
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    Dear Mr. Goerter, Dear Hans,

    We never met but for sure I remember very well the story of your Ur-
    Portugieser find and all the details you gave about how you discovered it. It
    might even beat Terry Russell's article on the KaviRama Jubilee! One can feel
    your excitement and fear of the catch, very vividly. And I must tell you that
    you had a lasting impact on my quest for beautiful watches; in fact, when I
    saw a 1944 Portugieser for sale, I had your article in mind and went for it.
    Thank you Hans

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