Two singular remembrances of SIHH 2010

Dick, that colour looks most like...

...the blue used for the 2nd Aquatimer COUSTEAU, which was the first Chronograph edition if you recall!

So NOT the first (non-chrono) Cousteau with the blue sunray dial but the 2nd edition (with the piece Calypso wood on the back).

Best regards,

Bob

Well explained David! Richard...(more)

... you might be right that the bezel is now CONVEX!!!

I also have a hard time remembering ,-)

Yes, about asking advice

An advisor must be ready for the answer "Thank you for your advice, but I will do otherwise".

I think most questions here about advice what watch to buy are made to make conversation, to look at different angles, and that is right. I cannot speak for others, but I myself in the end never needed advice about what watch to buy, I just knew. To put it the other way round, if I don't know I just don't do it. That is my advice.

Kind regards,
Paul, wearing the watch that convinced me in a flash and didn't need any advice, the rose gold VC Portuguese

not sure I concur about your advice, which is anti-advice....

All decisions require thought and hearts don't speak without a history of learned reactions. If one has an emotional reaction to something, that person must ask himself or herself "why". A person has to think through all considerations, including costs and relative alternatives, on all purchases, especially expensive ones. Raising issues can assist in that process, since no one exists in a vacuum, I recall well how you asked for advice about which "watch of a lifetime" you should buy.

Ultimately of course a person has to make his or her own decision, using whatever criteria he decides is relevant. But thinking through that criteria is relevant. Some people do it poorly or without much conscious analysis, but we all do it.

For the above reasons, I disagree with your ":advice" about what Bill or others should do.

Regards,
Michael
P.S. A lot of people bought the CFI for what it represented --this forum, IWC first "regular" automatic movement since the c. 8541, the return of the Ingenieur, etc. Some of them even analyzed their decisions first, and considered the issues raised by others. A lot of people buy watches because of what they represent.

MF's advice about anti advice is good advice.

I always enjoy discussing watches with my watch appreciating friends, and this Forum is the best place to discuss things IWC. While I have always made my own decision regarding which watch Whichwatch would buy, I appreciated and absolutely enjoyed hearing the thoughts of others. Kicking around the possibilities was to me always part of the fun and part of the experience.

Though the ultimate purchase decision should and will always be a personal decision, hearing and sharing opinions with the group that hangs around this site can't be beat. I think doing so expands the anticipation and enjoyment of the ultimate ownership.

I am with Dick on this sub thread>>>

I trust and welcome advice from knowledgeable collectors, particularly MF's comments. He steered me correctly on my AT 2000 and I appreciate his and other members comments. In the end, of course, it is my decision, but I do want to listen and learn. My gut instincts can be misleading....History and tradition are important and are part of the total buying criteria.

Thanks all for your help. Now time will tell...so to speak.

Bill

If I recall, that one was

a fairly "flat" color (top photo). The first Cousteau (bottom photo), while a lighter brighter blue, was "deeper" and more reflective.

So is the new blue dark like Cousteau # 2 while also reflective like Cousteau #1?

Thanks for your input, Bob.

Question about the subdials

From this picture, it looks like the subdials in the 5023 don't have a circular pattern anymore. The result is much less reflections? Is this true or just an optical effect in the picture?

Kind regards,

Clemens

Thanks!

From what I had read I understood that the extra diameter was used to make the subdials more legible but apparently, this is not the case (some pun intended :-)

Could it be that by using identical cases for the 5021 and the 5023 IWC reduces the number of different parts and increases the flexibility in producing both versions?

Kind regards,

Clemens