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Vintage IWC with Cartier double signed dial

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    Mr. Lee Dowell
    Apprentice 4 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 3:42 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 3:42 p.m.
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    Hi all,

    I have this IWC with Cartier printed on the dial, and I've never seen something like it before. I'm looking for some help identifying it, and possible getting a ball park value. Is this something Cartier did on a regular basis?

    Any help would be very much appreciated.

    Link to image:

    i63.tinypic.com/18yfpe.png

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    Mr. Thomas Koenig
    Connoisseur 375 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 4:16 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 4:16 p.m.
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    It appears to be a Cal. 89 in steel.

    That given without a close-up of the dial and the imprint "Cartier" I deem this dial a fake.

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

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    Mr. Lee Dowell
    Apprentice 4 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 4:37 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 4:37 p.m.
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    t.koenig has written:

    It appears to be a Cal. 89 in steel.

    That given without a close-up of the dial and the imprint "Cartier" I deem this dial a fake.

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

    Thank you for the reply! Fake dial due to Cartier not having this collaboration with IWC? Or just poor lettering (as much as can be determined with the poor quality photo?)

    Thanks again!

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    WhistlerBC
    Connoisseur 121 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 7:06 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 7:06 p.m.
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    I have limited knowledge about this era but I do have a co-branded IWC (with Türler) from the 40's that looks somewhat similar.

    [i736.photobucket.com/albums/xx5/WhistlerBC1/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps2dpnri9v.jpg](s736.photobucket.com/user/WhistlerBC1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps2dpnri9v.jpg.html)

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    Mr. Thomas Koenig
    Connoisseur 375 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 7:58 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 7:58 p.m.
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    Türler was a retailer and watches branded both with International Watch Co. and the retailer's name are seen here and there.

    Cartier is no retailer like Türler, Beyer or others. We know watches produced by IWC, but branded Cartier. But those were no Cal. 89 and the branding was different.

    With a real Cartier I would expect a high quality print of the signature, while a forger probably isn't able and willing to produce really high end prints on the dial.

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

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    Mr. Tonny Berteloot
    Moderator 3567 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 8:37 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 8:37 p.m.
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    Hello Ldowell and welcome to the forum.

    Here are some links to older posts on the forum about the link Cartier and IWC.

    link1

    link2

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    Mr. Anders Johansson
    Master 736 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 8:55 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 8:55 p.m.
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    Tonny,

    That's interesting and supports it is definitely not the only one, although the others mentioned were automatics.

    BTW, any plans to relaunch the Vintage Catalogue site? Really missing that feature...

    Best
    /Anders

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    Mr. Lee Dowell
    Apprentice 4 posts
    20 Jun 2016, 11:26 p.m. 20 Jun 2016, 11:26 p.m.
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    Thanks everyone for the insights, and thank you Tonny for the warm welcome. I'll get some better photos of the dial and movement and share them here when I can!

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    Mr. Lee Dowell
    Apprentice 4 posts
    27 Jun 2016, 11:17 p.m. 27 Jun 2016, 11:17 p.m.
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    Hi everyone -

    I've finally got some better images of this IWC. According to my instructor (I'm a student in watchmaking school) the dial is not refinished. If anyone has any details or contacts about the nature of this collaboration please let me know!

    imgur album

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    Mr. Jeremy Ong
    Graduate 23 posts
    28 Jun 2016, 6:52 a.m. 28 Jun 2016, 6:52 a.m.
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    Here is one for reference

    www.vesperco.com/whatsnew/2016/4/10/iwc-8541-for-cartier-london

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