Virtual pocket watch museum DAY 1, a Jones

What an awesome watch Tonny! And what a superb idea to spread information and
joy here and let us take part in your outstanding collection!

Do you know when it was made, what year?

In my understanding the movement was made in Schaffhausen and shipped to New
York where it was married to an America made case. Is that correct?

You too stay safe and healthy Tonny with all your family and beloved ones!

What a great idea Tonny. I am looking forward to learn a lot about the pocket
watches. My knowledge about PW is very limited so far.

Jens-Kristian

Looking forward to the daily delights.

Nelson

What a superb example of Jones attempts to sell movements from Schaffhausen
into the American market.

From Tonny's gleaming gold cased Type R serial number 14801 - clearly a watch
that was sold into the upper high end of the market to wealthy folk in the
USA, to the other end of the spectrum -> Here is an example from my collection
of a Jones timepiece, cased in a so called COIN METAL, steel based case.

Unlike Tonny's luxury example, this movement is a so called Key Wind Key
Set movement and is an earlier model - having left the manufactury in
Schafhausen just 739 manufactured movements earlier than that of Tonny 's
magnificent example.

Also, unlike Tonny/s example which has us looking at a nickel plated movement,
as can be seen here this movement is with a very basic finish with brass
plates and bridges

The movement is a type B and carries the Henry Burns model indicator.

Movement # 14062

The watch keeps excelent time, and has not been restored.

Fantastic

I look forward to seeing all the glorious Pocket Watches and when we get to
Cal 52, I will add mine.

Here is an
extremely rare Jones bird.

Allow me a short explanation. For a long time it was believed that the
complete Jones watch production took place in one run between 1872-1879. The
last 2 years F.F. Seeland was in charge and about 26.500 watches movements and
unfinished ebauches had been made so far. However, Alan Myers, Thomas Koenig
and David Seyffer discovered that there has been a second run, initiated by
F.F. Seeland. These comprised only Jones pattern 'C' movements which
represented the lowest quality of all Jones movements. A series of 'C' watches
had also earlier been produced during the first run. When Seeland took over,
he reserved a huge series of consecutive movement numbers for the full plate
watches he was intending to produce. However, there must have been interest
from customer(s) for cheap Jones watches, as about 80 watches have been made
with a movement nr. between 76967-77007 and 79900-79950. This has been
documented in the IWC inventory of 1887 and published by Alan Myers.

Pattern 'C' watches were all key-wind and key-set They had only 11 jewels wile
all other patterns had 14-20 jewels.Because of the low quality they were
mounted predominantly in silver cases. On the movement the pattern letter 'C'
is often lacking as well as the engravement 'Intnl Watch Co'. From the first
run perhaps 10 watches exist, only 5 have been documented. The movement shown
is from the second run and has movement number76957. As far as known, it is
the only example to exist. 150 years ago a lot of low quality watches were
built and it is no surprise that after tear and wear such watches were not
worthwhile to repair. Nevertheless it belongs to the legacy of F.A. Jones.

Regards,

Adrian,

(alwaysiwc).

Indeed a rare bird Adrian. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and to me
it's a magnificent example of Jones dream.

Another great lesson on the history of IWC. Thank you.

Nelson

Also
rare, but more common than the pattern 'C' is the key wind, key set, 16
jewels, Greenleaf Romney.

Adrian.

Wow, love this thread already! Thanks for the education gentlemen and keep 'm
coming!

Regards, Bob

Great idea Tonny!!! Looking forward to learning more about pocket watches
other than that they go into your pocket. =^P

DAY 3 VIRTUAL
POCKET WATCH SHOW.

Finding a complete original Jones p.w. is a rare event.

This is because none of the Jones watches left the factory, complete with
case.The first to the US exported movements received an engine turned American
gold or coin silver case, stamped with an IWC logo that was applied in the US.
Most of these gold cases have been removed to recover the precious metal.
Thereafter no case at all or a gold filled case were mounted. An untouched
complete original gold case plus movement is therefore extremely rare. Here is
one. They are always hunter cases.

Regards,

Adrian.

An excellent idea Tonny. The virus will be long forgotten before you get to
my modern pocket watches.

What a fantastic idea Tonny!!! I will add my own Jones pattern R. The second
photo shows some interesting finishing details; a star shape around the center
wheel pivot, and a larger circle beyond that: