• 1 Apr 2020, 5:37 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 12 :

    Since Mark L. ended his post yesterday with a picture of a train, I thought to
    post this pocketwatch today.

    Again a cal 52, an early one, sold to Vittorio Bonomi in Milano 28/5/1895.

    What is special ? Well some IWC watches were made for professional use , as
    the Ocean Bund, the pocketwatch for the US Corps of Engineers ( will be a post
    later in the series ) but IWC also made pocketwatches that were delivered to
    railway companies.

    Here is an example , the RM, stands for Rete Meditarreana.

    More on these watches can be found in an old post by Adrian here :
    [forum.iwc.com/t/nostalgy-for-iwc-pocket-watches/2131/#post-169261](/t

    /nostalgy-for-iwc-pocket-watches/2131/#post-169261)

    I know MArk L has some stories to tell about these watches too.

    Here is mine . Note the 24h notification on the dial. Also see the detail of
    the two screws, typical for the pre 20th century IWC pocketwatches.

    Again with the JWC logo

    and the typical type of screws for that period.

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 5:38 p.m.

    A great pickup on yesterdays thread Tonny, and indeed inspired by Adrian
    original post on the Italian Railway pocket watches some years back, I set out
    to secure one for myself.

    I managed to find one and was happy to add it to my collection, despite the
    fact that it had some damage to the unique RM Dial.

    The First Italian Railway watch in my Collection - RM # 8892

    As you can see the RM number of this watch is much higher than Tonny's and
    cleary was part of a later 3rd order. In fact this watch was shipped out from
    Schaffhausen on the 22nd of June 1901 to "Societe ital. Strade Ferrate Turin".

    I had my watchmaker remove the broken and cracked enamel dial, and sent it off
    to the USA for restoration. However, months went by and I heard nothing from
    the Dial Restorer, and after a while also had no responce or answer to my
    questions as to the status of the dial restoration.

    The Second Italian Railway watch in my Collection - RM # 7036

    Nothing was more frustrating to me than to have a restoration project
    uncompleted, and then when this RM turned up for sale, I managed to secure it.
    This watch was part of a second order placed by the Italians on Schaffhausen
    for 200 RM Pocket Watches, and these were numbered RM #7012 through to RM

    7211 and went out in 1899.

    The 3rd Italian Railway watch in my Collection - RM # 9785

    This watch was near perfect in all aspects with little wear on the engraving.
    My desire to own a Collection worthy RM was met - and I was left with 2 and a
    half RM watches, since one missed its dial.

    Three Italians in a Row

    _ BUT WAIT ... SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE ! _

    My three RM's are;

    1. RM # 8892
    2. RM # 7036
    3. RM # 9785

    See the last watch on the right above - that's RM # 9745 and not RM 7036

    So, what gives here? Well in the interim with all this excitment on the forum,
    and Adrian and other posting about pocket watches my good friend Giovanni
    Ambrogio, an avid and keen contempory IWC watch Collector asked me to find him
    a Pallweber Pocket Watch. He figured (correctly IMHO) that all serious IWC
    Collectors should have at least one IWC Pocket Watch in there Collection, and
    he decided this should be a Pallweber.

    However, shortly after we started looking for a Pallweber for him he and his
    wife came for dinner one night, and on seeing my three RM pocket Watches and
    getting to understand that they were actually sold to Italy - Giovanni
    imeadiatly asked me to stop searching for a Pallweber and to find him a RM
    pocket watch.

    A couple of weeks later one turned up on eBay, and I spoke to Giovanni telling
    him that I thougt that the BUY IT NOW price was fair, and that as he was crazy
    to actually own one (he was trying to get me to sell him one of mine), that he
    should buy it. That evening and night I watched it on eBay and saw many
    "watchers" and a significant amount of interest in it. These watches are
    relatively rate and for sure it was going to go quickly. I phoned Giovanni at
    around 10pm and asked why he had not secured it yet. His responce was that he
    would send an offer lower than the already very fair asking price. I warned
    him that it was risky, and a lower price would be rejeceted by the seller.

    Either way I woke up first thing in the morning to check eBay and there were
    now 18 followers - this watch was going to go out from under Giovannis nose.
    So, I made an executive decision - and hit the Buy it Now Button. The watch
    (RM # 9745) was mine now.

    At exactly 08h30 my phone rings and it's Giovanni basically crying his eyes
    out. He said that he had made an offer late the previous night and that it was
    automaticaly rejected. He then made a seconf offer - that too was rejected, so
    he made a third offer just €25 less than the Buy It Now price and that that
    offer was then not automaticaly rejected, so he was hopefull that he would get
    an acceptance of his last offer. But when he checked in the morning his offer
    had been rejected by the seller and that THE WATCH WAS SOLD !

    I did not at this stage tell Giovanni that I secured the watch, and then
    taught him the Englsih expression "You Snooze - You Loose". He never forgot
    that expression, and I held back on telling him that I had secured the watch
    for another 24 hours, during which time he sent me 4 emails and phone messages
    containing offers to buy one of my three RM's.

    A couple of days later, I drove over to Dusseldorf and sitting at his Dining
    Room table over a coffee, put his RM down on the table. The pure joy in his
    eyes on seeing it convinced me I has done the correct thing in securing the
    watch.

    Giovanni then became intrested in the history and legacy of these watches, and
    when the well known Collector Thomas Konig asked Giovanni to assist him with
    some translation work (many documents were in Italian). They worked on the
    article together, but unfortunately Giovanni passed away before the actual
    article could be published.

    [Article on the RM watches by Giovanni and
    Thomas](http://[Article by Giovanni and Thomas on RM Railway

    watches](www.iwc.com/en/articles/journal/railroads-and-
    pocket-
    watches.html)watches.html)

    Soon after the the article was published, an author in Italy who was writting
    a book (in Italian ) on all types of Italian Railway Watches contacted Thomas
    Konig and asked if this article could be used in his book (with credit to
    Giovanni and Thomas).

    Of course Giovanni's RM watch is treasured by his family and toghether with
    his wife Natascha we decided that the watch would go to the older of their two
    daughters.

    When the Italian book finally got published AND IN AN EXTRAORDINARY NICE
    GUESTURE
    , Thomas Konig NOT ONLY arranged for two signed copies of the book
    bearing their Dads article in it, to be made available but also approached me
    with the idea to source another RM watch for the 2nd daughter, so that both
    girls can have a commerative RM watch and accompanying book.

    Thomas Konig went to incredible lengths to get this watch (which came from my
    collection), into a fully working RM (down to sourcing a donor C52 needed for
    parts as well as going the extra mile on the dial).

    In a closed family meeting over a dinner in Giovanni's favorite taverna,
    Thomas presented both girls with with the books and the two RM watches.

    Subsequently, I worked with Schafhuasen and my local watchmaker to then fully
    rebuild and service the 2nd RM, ensuring that the correct movement serial
    numbers are in the correct case. Also in tribute to the man that Giovanni was,
    a fellow collector from Singapore covered the costs for that rebuild.

    And there you have it folks the story of the RM Watches in my Collection.

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 6:35 p.m.

    I love Railway Watches.
    I have a Canadin National Rail watch, but it is not IWC.....

    Is it permissible to post pics?

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 7:38 p.m.

    I
    have my Grandfather's Ball Official Railroad Standard PW. He was THE supplier
    of coal
    to the Frisco RR in the Early 1900's. His company went under during the Great
    Depression.

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 9:01 p.m.

    Here are 2 RM
    watches. Again cal.52 was selected by professional organisations working with
    the exact time. Railway station officers were dependent from the exact time.
    One can imagine what would happen if the watch would deviate 30 seconds or
    more from the reference time. So, not only exact time was demanded but also
    the timepiece should not be too delicate and functional at different
    temperatures, humidity and above all with extreme long service
    intervals.Please
    take a close look to the left
    watch.If you
    inspect the crown you will see it has been turned thousands of times, year
    after year. It is completely polished by a winding finger and the thumb.The
    crown of this watch tells its history, the story of an indestructable sturdy
    and precise cal. 52 watch, serving its master for years.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 9:09 p.m.

    This thread should be devoted to Giovanni and his daughters.

    It is wonderfull what Thomas Koenig and Mark Levinson for Giovanni and his
    family have achieved.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Insider
    1 Apr 2020, 9:15 p.m.

    Watches aside, what a great story and testament to the friendship and
    camaraderie developed amongst the collector's worldwide.

    Cheers to all of you.

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 9:48 p.m.

    Tonny and Mark, thank you for this thread. Some happy memories.

  • Master
    1 Apr 2020, 10:10 p.m.

    Great watches, great stories and great memories

  • Connoisseur
    1 Apr 2020, 11:05 p.m.

    Mark, such a beautiful story and tribute, not only to Giovanni, but the
    lifelong friendships born from this community. Thanks again for sharing it.

  • Master
    2 Apr 2020, 1 p.m.

    It was hard to keep from tearing up when I read Mark's story of Giovanni's
    watch. The kindness reflected in this story is the primary reason I've always
    been proud to be a part of this forum. Assembled here are some of the best
    people I know...from all over the globe.

  • Master
    5 Apr 2020, 9:07 a.m.

    Epic stories guys, of real dedication, friendship, knowledge and respect.
    Amazing!

    Regards, Bob

  • Connoisseur
    5 Apr 2020, 4:48 p.m.

    Hi Mark

    to be honest: I did not ask Giovanni to TRANSLATE, but to do conduct
    additional RESEARCH. With my rusty Latin and few Italian watch collectors
    speaking English fluently it was more or less impossible to talk to Italian
    fellow collectors and scan Italian language internet websites and fora. Not
    only me, as well the late Fritz Wagener and Adrian van der Meijden were unable
    to overcome this language barrier. Giovanni could and he did.

    The rest of the story is true, though not worth mentioning my part in sourcing
    a working 2nd watch for the 2nd daughter.

    Regards

    Th. Koenig

  • Master
    5 Apr 2020, 4:57 p.m.

    Thank You Thomas for adding another crucial bit of information to this
    incredible story