• 8 Apr 2020, 5:30 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 18 :

    Today I will show you one of my first pocketwatches bought. I bought it for a
    few reasons, it is an elegant caliber 73 and it has a special case.

    If one would have a beauty contest of IWC calibers, I gues the jury would put
    the caliber 73, caliber 77 and caliber 71 on the podium. ( but every one has
    his own taste ). Quit a lot of cal 73 calibers come in amazing art deco cases,
    so I have a few of them in my collection, they will be shown later.

    But this one in silver is a special one, haven't seen many ( really only two
    or three ) for sale. But I know for sure there are two belonging to forum
    members.

    This one is from 1927.

    There were more fingerbridge movements made by IWC, I will show one later too.

    See also the word "chronometre" on the dust cover. Tomorrow, I will post
    another cal 72 also with the word chronometre on it, but a different style.

    Before I make my daily post, I look into the forum archives if there are old
    posts related to my pocketwatch, so,

    more about chronometre and half chronometre can be found in the excellent post
    by Adrian van der Meijden, here

    forum.iwc.com/t/nostalgy-for-iwc-pocket-watches/2314/2/#post-182092

  • Master
    8 Apr 2020, 5:31 p.m.

    I guess there are more sides to this story around these spectacular octagonal
    cases. As Tonny correctly writes, they do not come up often for sale and for a
    long time I had been looking to add one to my Collection.

    The 1st Watch

    Then one night somewhere a few years ago Tonny, myself and Jeroen met up in
    Amsterdam at a boutique event. We had a great evening, and afterwards the 3 of
    us went for dinner when Tonny out of the blue pulls a pocket watch out his
    (yes, you guessed it - his pocket) which had this tag attached to it.....

    ...saying, "hey Mark I know you've been looking for one of these for a long
    time, and knowing how you love projects, see if you can save this one!".

    And yes, indeed there was a Cal.73 in an Octagonal case". Tonny then said
    something to the effect of "dont get too excited - it needs lots of TLC", with
    a wink and a nod to Jeroen (my IWC trained local watchmaker). To say the
    least, I was rather embaressed but very honored at this guesture by Tonny.

    After dinner Jeroen and I drove back to the South and Jeroen had some time in
    the car to inspect the watch. Now, know that often with these rare pieces, we
    as Collectors are happy to simply own such examples and we all know that not
    every watch is able to be saved and/or restored. In looking at the condition
    of the watch, I assumed that this one was one of those nice to have pieces,
    and that it would never be a museum piece, I asked Jeroen to take it with him
    to the attelier and when he had time to note down the serial numbers of the
    case and movement for my records. A few days later he did email me the two
    numbers (which Tonny too had noted correctly) and I entered it into my
    database.

    Time passed and the watch slowly faded into the background as Jeroen and I
    worked on some complicated restorations projects (more on those project
    later).

    Then, last year during the dinner at the BBAMSGTG

    Jeroen
    suddenly gets up and makes a small speech, handing me this very vintage box..

    I had no idea what it was, and exitedly opened the box only to reveal this
    magnificent:

    Octagonal Cased Cal. 73

    The Case Back

    The Maestro watchmaker in Jeroen had seen him fully restore this magnificent
    pocket watch to it's former glory. The Cal. 73 inside, dating from 1918 when
    it was originally manaufactured has been completey rebuild and runs perectly
    too.

    Such is the comorade and friendship amongst us Collectors, and I needed to
    wait a whole year before I could recipricate and do justice to this fantastic
    guesture by Tonny and Jeroen.

    Sometimes, it's uncanny how these things pan out - but just before that very
    same BBAMSGTG event, a watch turned up for sale in the USA which caught my
    attention and then (still) believing that I did not have such a watch truly in
    my collection, I managed to secure it - and Bill Barker was kind enough to
    take receipt of the watch for me,

    The 2nd Watch

    The Case Back

    The Movement

    All the above photos captured by Master Watch Photographer Mr. William Barker

    This watch shipped out of Schaffhuasen in 1931.

  • Master
    8 Apr 2020, 8:55 p.m.

    I love this shaped cases.

    About 40 Years ago I have seen a +/- square IWC watch with a c.74 movement.
    That time I was student an had not the money to by that watch.

    Today I think, the "correct" way would have been to buy that watch and eat
    some month just hard bread.

    Actually I have no pictures nor watches to add for the discussion of this kind
    of cases :-(

    We had the octagonal shaped case....

    But there is more in the newer time...

    REF 5310 has an duodecagonal shaped case may be someone can add a legal
    picture, I dot want to steal in in the internet....

    P.S. Also the 2nd watch shown watch as 12 corners but 2 of them thes seeems to
    be somehow hidden

  • Master
    8 Apr 2020, 9:04 p.m.

    Stamped in the case of Tonny's watch is an interesting word : 'chronometre'.

    Collectors or dealers might think to have a real chronometer in their hands
    and there are also cases with the term half-chronometer.

    A chronometer is an exceptional accurate timepiece and from about 1860-1925,
    watches should be called a chronometer only if they had passed a vigorous
    test, carried out by an astronomical observatory as only there the exact time
    could be calculated from astronomical observations.

    IWC sent several movements to observatories in Geneva, Neuchatel and Kew.
    Watches which passed the test program were rewarded with a rating : 'bulletin
    de marche'. However, the term chronometer was not protected or patented. This
    is why IWC and other brands made up their own tests which were far less
    stringent. In an article : 'To be or not to be an IWC chronometer' more about
    this topic can be read. I will send it to the moderator. Perhaps it can be
    added to this thread.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • 8 Apr 2020, 9:19 p.m.

    The ref 5310
    with it's corners, picture by A. van der Meijden

  • Master
    8 Apr 2020, 9:40 p.m.

    Ralph, you write " Today I think, the "correct" way would have been to buy
    that watch and eat
    some month just hard bread.
    "

    This would have been 100% the correct thing to do. Then that watch would have
    been saved - and you could have shared it with us here today.

    Now, I my worst fear is that that watch you missed was found and is in some
    Collection in Belgium :-)

    The hunt is on.

  • Master
    9 Apr 2020, 1:09 p.m.

    I've really enjoyed this series, guys! The forum was always a place for me to
    learn about watches and this series hit the mark. Thanks for making the forum
    more than "can you identify this watch" column again. I still get excited
    seeing our members' collections.