• 23 May 2020, 4:51 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 63, Sch utzenuhr 1979 Luzern , part 1.

    The watch I show today is another Schutzenuhr, this one is from 1979, the
    Schuzenfest in Luzern, the 50th eidgenossisches Schutzenfest.

    It was an important event, the 50th time this national shootingcompetition was
    organized, so a lot of public and shooters were expected to show up.

    The local watchdealer Jorg Sporing made at IWC an order for pocketwatches.
    There is a story to tell here about this order that I will post in part 2 or
    part 3.

    The order was :

    100 pieces in silver, Savonette ( cal 982 )

    1000 pieces in silver Lepine ( ope face ) ( cal 952 )

    50 pieces in gold Lepine ( cal 982 )

    When you see the numbers, the guy must have been very optimistic about the
    sales opportunities. ( remember it was 1979 , pocketwatches were not that any
    more "en vogue" )

    The cases were made not by IWC and so they don't have the IWC case numbers,
    but a numbering of their own.

    Also I saw Zenith ( silver ) and Patek ( gold ) watches with a similar case. A
    case with on the back a figure of Willem Tell with a crossbow, made by the
    artist Hans Erni.

    As with all the Schutzenfesten, there was not only watches that were made, but
    also Schutzentahler, commemorative coins.

    The watch that Mark L. showed us yesterday, was a DIY Schutzenuhr, made by
    joining a regular IWC pocketwatch and such a coin, glued to the back of the
    watch.

    The coin made for Luzern 1979 has the same maker, Hans Erni, and the same
    figure on it.

    Part two is for tomorrow with more info and a nice story behind these watches.

    And by coincidence, this year, there are again Schutzenfesten planned in
    Luzern. ( not sure if it is a go due to the Covid 19 virus )

    Some of the medals for this year

    Together with the Schutzentahler

    The case is of heavy silver, even the inner cover is made of solid silver

  • Master
    23 May 2020, 4:51 p.m.

    Part #1 ... can't wait for part #2 !

    50 pieces in Gold

    but they all came with the same plastic box !

    ... as the silver (925 sterling) came in.

    However, as Tonny has a story to tell on the William Tell (and I am a poet -
    just don't know it)....

    and I dont want to spoil his tail, I will keep it in the same light / watch as
    his.

    The Watch

    So, around 8 years ago I posted as follows.

    So here 's the clue / question. Sorry, no brownie points for those of you
    already in the know.

    farm9.staticflickr.com/8032/7982069287_17ac085368_o.jpg

    So any guesses?

    And the forum members put forward a number of names. However, Sunflower was
    correct in naming the figure as William Tell.

    My responce was as follows.

    So Sunflower was on target - only his arrow went astray!

    Yes, the picture indeed is that of William Tell. And to answer the question
    as to what he has to do with my newest IWC? Simply this - > He is depicted on
    the case of this beautiful IWC Schuetzenuhr pocket watch dating from 1979.

    farm9.staticflickr.com/8178/7996192957_9fa305e67f_h.jpg

    It's featured in the book by Hans-F Tolke & Jurgen King entitled IWC
    International Watch Company - who list it as follows:

    farm9.staticflickr.com/8306/7996158673_2615b47c50_b.jpg

    The watch is fitted with a magnificent Cal. 952.

    There was much written about this particular piece - and some discussion
    whether or not, all the produced pieces were all used as actual prizes at the
    competition - as apparently some watches found there way into general sales
    channels via a Lucern based IWC AD at the time.

    So, of course given the importance / novelty of this particular 1979
    Schutzenfest piece, it probably was inevitable that despite me saying
    yesterday that I did not want to go down the route of the Schutzenfest
    watches, that in order for my collection to be "complete", I needed to have at
    least one of these in my collection - no?

    How it is that I ended up with not one, but two of them (as above) is a story
    for another time.

    Either way, front side dial - or rear side casting of William Tell, this is a
    very nice pocket watch which given the incabloc movement, could be a daily
    wearer.

  • Master
    23 May 2020, 6:11 p.m.

    More rare, heavy and expensive is the 18kt gold modern Schutzenuhr from
    Winterhur.

    Here, on its original box. Unfortunately the box was made of white artificial
    leather, which crumbles off after years when exposed to
    light.

    In the IWC brochure the engaved by hand calibre 9820 is depicted. This calibre
    was the 'end devolopment' of cal 98, the last pocket watch calibre made by IWC
    and one of the base calibres used for the complicated pocket watches during
    the revival period ( 1970-1980).

    This Schutzenuhr is from 1990. The back cover was in heavy relief, as was done
    in the Fuchs Scarabaeus pocket watch.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Master
    24 May 2020, 9:41 a.m.

  • Connoisseur
    24 May 2020, 10:29 a.m.

    Apropos stamps:

    IWC did not only produce die stamps to produce the cases, but as well another
    stamp:

    Here come (i) a Zurich 1907 marksmen watch (not that rare), (ii) its original
    box (not that often seen) and (iii) the print stamp to produce advertisements
    and other printed stuff of the Finanz- & Gaben Comite des Eidgenossischen
    Schutzenfestes Zurich
    (Finance & Gift Comitee of the Federal Marksmen
    Competition Zurich).

    So for each IWC Schuetzenuhr a die stamp and a stamp for printing was
    produced.

    Never saw a fellow collector having both, die stamp and print stamp for the
    same watch in his hands.

    Regards

    Thomas

  • Master
    24 May 2020, 12:27 p.m.

    Thomas, absolutely amazing - true collecting at its finest !

  • 24 May 2020, 3:47 p.m.

    very nice lot in the collection Thomas. Very rare indeed.