• 25 May 2020, 5:23 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 65, Sch utzenuhr 1979, Luzern, part 3

    To complete the series of the 1979 Schutzenuhr, today the gold Lepine with cal
    952.

    The danger of been bitten by the Uhren virus, is shown here,when I found the
    first one, and got knowledge of the other two, I had to find the others to
    complete the collection.

    But since the Hunter was only made in 100 pieces and the gold one only in 50,
    it was a bit more challenging to find these. It took me some time but here is
    the complete lot.

    As written before, the quality of these case is very high and the weight is
    heavy.

    Here is also a picture of the two back covers of the golden one on a scale.

    At a price of around 50.000 euro/kg, it means these covers alone are more
    worth than 2000 euro.

    And yes, I know that there is also a coin in gold, but no, I am not going to
    buy it, need the money for another pocketwatch to show here.

  • Master
    25 May 2020, 5:24 p.m.

    One must really take our hats off, to our moderator here for showing such
    dedication in his quest to complete the hat-trick of Lucern 1979 Schutzenfest
    pocket watches. The savonetter version has eluded me todate.

    But, I do think after three days of William Tell, that it's time to show one
    more Schutzenfest watch from my collection, and then move on.

    The Watch

    Again, a humble Cal. 52 fitted in an ornate german silver .900 case.

    Which of course was one of the prize watches for the great

    Dial side bezel is decorated as well. Note the Swiss National emblem on the
    crown stem.

    The Calibre 52 is of course the then workhorse of IWC Schaffhausen, and is not
    decorated. (this photos are prior to service).

    (serial number removed to protect the innocent)

    And of course, the traditional medalion souvenier....

    Although I do not have the original papers that came with the watch - they
    looked like this.

    And as a point of trivia, know that the famous Swiss componist Othmar Schoeck
    composed especially for the 1907 Schutzenfest a Concert March for which was
    composed as a piano duet for the Eidgen ossisches Schutzenfest. It was to
    have been scored for the band, but was deemed to difficult.

  • Master
    25 May 2020, 10:37 p.m.

    You guys continue to impress beyond belief :o)

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 12:08 a.m.

    I'm with Mark F.! I look forward to this post every day, and have yet to be
    disappointed!

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 8:55 p.m.

    I found back another document that came with a Zurich Schutenfest 1907 watch.

    It is a 'Gangschein' or 'Bulletin de Marche'. The term Bulletin de Marche was
    used by the Swiss Astronomical Observatories ( Neuchatel, Geneva) and was
    awarded to a watch or movement that had passed the stringent requirements for
    chronometer testing of that specific Observatory.

    However, IWC did its own testing and rewarded this Schutzenuhr with a bulletin
    de March. The owner of the watch might think that his watch was a qualified
    chronometer. But it was not. The testing was by far not not the same. It was
    done in less positions, less temperature differences and above all not for a
    continuing time of 4-6 weeks. IWC and other brands could do this because the
    requirements for
    achronometer
    were not defined, nor protected by law.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 9:26 p.m.

    Adrian, fascinating.

    Do you think the measurements test sheet actually shipped together with the
    watch - or was it obtained at some service regulation later?

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 9:46 p.m.

    No, the Gangschein came with the watch. All Fuchs pocket watches had an
    individual Gangschein as well.

    Adrian.

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 9:52 p.m.

    Just a "stupid" observations.

    It seems old "Schutzenuhren" where sold as IWC Watches (with IWC case
    numbers).

    Some of the newer ones had no IWC case number, just an individual number
    indication the piece inside serie of that watches (Schutzenuhr 1979, Luzern
    800) These watches where probably never sold as "IWC".

    Watches which where then sold als IWC watches in the Catalog as Wintherthur
    1990 haf IWC serial numbers.

    Kind regards

    Ralph

  • Master
    26 May 2020, 10:40 p.m.

    Mark,

    Here is a certificate ( not mentioned anymore as bulletin de marche) from the
    Fuchs pocket watch, that was discussed by Tonny in this
    thread.It
    is no surprise for any collector who has made this composition. I hope that
    Heiko does not strangle me!

    As you can see, the certificate was delivered in 1982. At that time the term
    chronometer was protected. Probably that is the reason to skip the name
    bulletin de marche. At the end you can read that the tollerances found were
    determined at the factory, before the watch left Schaffhausen.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).