• 8 Jun 2020, 5:26 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 79, cal 23, Seeland

    If the cal 22 shown yesterday is a rare one to find, this cal 23 even more.

    Most of the people would run away if they see a pocketwatch in such a state, a
    beaten up case, no name on the dial...

    But inside, there is a rare cal 23, the hunter brother of the cal 22 Lepine.

    It was the first time I saw a cal 23 or 22 for sale, so I grabbed it to add to
    my collection. It fitted in my goal to have movements from all the different
    era in the history of IWC.

    Not the most fancy one, but historical important enough to have one.

    I believe an English case

    Confirmed what is on the dust cover

    my favorite color is blue

  • Master
    8 Jun 2020, 5:27 p.m.

    Just as yesterdays VIRTUAL POCKET WATCH MUSEUM DAY 78 post, Tonny shows
    agains today a high quality Seeland three quarter plate movement based pocket
    watch.

    And in keeping with what I wrote yesterday, in an attempt to not show exactly
    the same watch/movements, unless there is something really interesting about
    the same watches, I will show a diferent calibre based pocket watch today.

    So the day before and yesterday saw Adrian come in to the discussion, and
    highligt difference between the different releases of a movement - which in
    the new nubering system has seen certain movement being "re-labbeled" (if I
    may call it that) - from being just another C.52 to a C.49 or another type
    designation.

    This was / is the case just yesterday, where Adrian is now picking up on my
    "spot the difference" side by side images of the two movements and is already
    sharing the knowledge as to what exactly constitutes a C.49 and how it
    differs from one release to another.

    In parallel with this, we have seen over the lat couple of days Mr. Thomas
    Koenig not once but already twice come in an comment on two of Tonnys C.52
    decorated timepieces, and has noted that in BOTH CASES the watches in Tonny's
    collection, were originally sold by IWC to the Italian Railways, and later
    repurposed (decorated) and sold of as a civilian jewelery watch.

    The Watch

    Todays watch I wish to share with yourselves, was not in exactly the condition
    it was was when it left the manufactury, as the dial although original IWC
    enamel dial, had been replaced, the rest of the watch and particularly the
    watch case was still in it's original form showing the case back engraving
    which indicates it was manufactured and produced by Schaffhausen especially
    for the Italian Railways.

    Clearly, the dial was not an original RM dial - more on that later, but the
    case serial number and case RM number engraving were intact

    And the archives listed the this watch as part of a 200 pieces order that was
    shipped to the Italian Railways.

    As you can see the numbering range was from RM 7012 through to RM 7211 for a
    total of 200 pieces.

    From the archive extract above, we see too that in the old numbering system
    Schaffhausen refered to this movement as a Lep. Cal.52 19'ligne.

    I guess I will need to wait until Adrian, Thomas or Ralgh (our three wise men)
    to confirm of deny exactly which release of this calibre it is.

    David Seyffer the non virtual Museum Curator gave me this historical photo
    depicting how Schaffhausen would test all 200 watches at the same time, prior
    to shipping an order.

    This watch has subsequently been redialed with a period and RM correct dial.

    I have some other RM watches in my collection, and will probably share more
    detail on one of them in a later post.

    I trust that Thomas Koenig will also jump in here, and give us the date on
    which this watch was sold by Schaffhausen to the Italian Railways.

  • Master
    8 Jun 2020, 6:29 p.m.

    It is easy to see that this Seeland with a three quarter plate is of
    significant higher quality than the full plate watches.

    There is a compensation balance wheel with gold screws, a Breguet hair spring
    and a very interesting way in fixing the escape wheel. It is fixed by a small
    circular metal disc that has been fixed on the thee quarter plate. In the
    midle is a chaton(jewel) in 3 screwed setting holding the arbor of the escape
    wheel. This is only seen in high quality movements. In the Jones series it was
    done in the 20 jewel cal. 'E', being the top quality movement.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)