• 14 Jun 2020, 5:16 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 85, cal 65, flowers

    I love the fingerbridge movements made by IWC, the cal 73 is one of my
    favorite movements. And I collected a few during the years. Already some
    beauties were shown here with splendid art deco cases in gold.

    But I was still missing the cal 65. So that one was on my radar for some time.
    Only around 24000 were made, not too rare but not as easy to find as a cal 73
    or 52.

    So, when discovering this one at an auction, looking at the dial, the case,
    the movement, that was it, this was the cal 65 that should fit into my
    collection.

    We are day 85 in my series of the virtual pocketwatch museum. The goal was to
    show a pocketwatch of my collection every day the museum was closed. I really
    hope that it opens again soon as my folder of remaining pocketwatches gets
    smaller and smaller, but still some nice ones to show.

    For those who followed the series, I guess you will see united in this watch
    today, plenty of things that were described on other watches too.

    For instance, the number on the inside of the case, on the edge ( here nr 598
    ) that was stamped into the case so assembly with the caseback ( here number
    366598 ) would be easy and not mixed up.

    Another example is a watch shown a few days ago where the books mention 13/24
    interieurement ( on the inside ), the numbers 13 to 24 are printed/painted on
    the inside of the number 1 to 12.

    And then the case. This case is unique, nver saw one like this before.

    As we know that IWC didn't made its own cases for decades, this case was made
    by the firm Huguenin.

    As you see mentioned on the caseback.

    I did a bit of research about that company and saw that they started the same
    year as IWC, 1868.

    Here is a bit of info found on their website.

    "

    In 1868, the young engraver Fritz Huguenin and his brother Guillocheur Albert
    set up a small watch-case design workshop. It wasn't long before they realised
    the value that embossing could add to their work. They therefore bought a
    spindle press, which they used to emboss their first medal in 1888.

    Over time, the Huguenin brothers specialised in the Niel method, which is used
    to give silver watches a black finish. This method made them famous worldwide
    and as a result of their new-found success, they switched from manual
    production to industrial production in 1899, building the factory in Le Locle
    that is still used today."

    So again a link to watches shown here before with Niello cases. A lot of these
    were made by Guegenin too, I believe.

    We saw also different case decorations, the Niello , cases with engravings,
    even with enamel decoration but this cal 65 has an embossed caseback.

    Also an art mastered by Huguenin. And here in a silver case and with gold
    highlights of some flowers. Can you imagine the joy of receiving this one and
    admiring beauty like this. The movement in super condition, a pristine dial,
    hands and then the case, a piece of art.

    Even the bow and the crown tube is part of the flower decoration.

    So happy to present it to you today.

    It can be dated 1904 for the movement and 1906 for the case. On the dustcover
    there is written H. Gilomen, Schaffhausen., so a local delivery.

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 5:17 p.m.

    Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder - and there is not one amongst you who
    can deny that this watch that Tonny posts today, is beyond beautiful.

    In fact, she is so beautiful that I feel the need to not let her pass nameless
    here - and just to be spoken of henceforth as "the Beauty" as that would not
    do her justice.

    She certainly is no "Jane" (as in plain Jane), neither does she look like a
    Gretchen or an Elvira. She is a classic beauty with French flair, from the
    Canton of Schaffhausen so, in refelction I shall name her Lutetia. Yes, a very
    apt name for this beauty of Tonny's - LUTETIA it shall be.

    I'm sure you all agree it is an appropiate and fitting name.

    The Watch

    Today, I really do not have an option as to what pocket watch from my
    Collection to post. When Tonny first shared with me that he was posting this
    Cal. 65 today I knew imeadiately which watch to share with you today.

    This, as she is in fact the twin sister to Tonny's Lutetia. She is Lutetia #1
    who was born according to the birth records, on the very same day just a few
    hours earlier as her elder sister Lutetia #2.

    Some nine year and 4 months and three days ago, Lutetia first appeared in my
    life
    .

    At that time of her birth, she was the lighter of the two twins and whilst
    completely healthy, her parents sadly inmeadiately favoured her younger sister
    who came some 6 hours and 30 minutes later (as just 63 others were born in
    Schaffhausen in the interim period that day). If you look at Tonny's watch you
    will see that not only did they dress here up in pure opulance and adorn her
    with flowers, they also immeadiately gave her a graceful swan to play with and
    allowed her freedom to play for 24 hours a day. My poor Lutetia on the other
    hand, has no flowers and no fine regulation (swan neck), and as you can see
    was only allowed out for some 12 hours a day - yet, she is to me as loved as
    her younger sister is to Tonny.

    The only thing they graced her with was some nice blue hands.

    And instead of those gorgeous flowers on the back of her dress - all she got
    was her fathers intials on her dress. Clearly Lutetia # 2 went to Mama.

    But that she is an identical twin - can easily be seen.

    Why, in fact they even put the same Birth Year Card on her.

    Now, how did I come up with the name. I'd love to take credit for naming here,
    but to tell the truth that is whats written in the birth register in
    Schaffhausen.

    And as Adrian explained, these twins both Cal. 65 benefitted from a slightly
    later birth - as they came out the efficient way with a easier running heart
    than their earlier sibblings of the same name, who came out the wrong way
    (upside down, as we see on top).

    And how can I be so sure that she is indeed a twin>

    Well simply this - her abridged birth certificate issued by Schaffhausen
    shows she was Probus Scafusia baby number 321138 and as you see on Tonnys '
    Lutetia, she was baby number 321201

    Now can anyone say, that I my Lutetia failed to complement Tonnys Lutetia
    today?

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 7:07 p.m.

    Indeed a very artistic watch !

    Regards

    Heiko

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 8:28 p.m.

    When I saw the name 'Huguenin' I thought of a picture depicted in the
    Jonesbook by
    David Seyffer, Thomas Koenig and Alan Myers.

    As many of us know, F.A. Jones made high quality watches which were of course
    fairly expensive. For the highest quality movements, Jones did not make
    balance wheels at IWC but bought outsourced balances from S. Jaquet Huguenin,
    based in the Jura region, Ponts-De-Martel. They were used in the pattern 'E'
    and 'H' which had 20 and 16 jewels, respectively. I assumed that this Huguenin
    was the same Huguenin as mentioned by Tonny as the maker of rich decorated
    watch cases. But apparently it was
    not.On this
    advert page two Huguenins manufacturers are to be seen. One for Huguenin
    brothers in Niel, making the decorated cases and Huguenin & Jaquet in Ponts-
    De-Martel making the balances. If one searches the names of the well known
    Swiss manufacturers from the era, the same names turn up time after time. This
    is because it were business families who went on from father to son etc. Even
    in the US, the same family names return as some of them emigrated to the 'New
    World' to export their knowledge and skill. Most of them were successful.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 8:37 p.m.

    Mark, maybe some comfort by saying : 'beauty is on the inside' (=:

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 8:45 p.m.

    Adrian, indeed I take great comfort from knowing this. Inside the case the
    same beautiful finger bridge movement resides - but still no denying how
    pretty those flowers of Tonny are.

    Same movements, one in a watch clearly intended for a lady, the other clearly
    a mans timepiece.

    Unbelievable no? That Tonny in Belgium buys a pocket watch in Switzerland
    recently and I in Netherlands bought a watch in Hungary 9 years ago - and the
    movements were made on the exact same day 116 years earlier in Schaffhausen.

    Even then, you could order customization - like the swan neck regulation and a
    fancy case!

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 9:05 p.m.

    Beautiful
    watch, Tonny!
    over the years I've been lucky enough to pick up a couple of nice 65s - well,
    one is a 66 which was purchased by Ernst Homberger himself as told in this
    story: [tnr.homestead.com/Ernst-Ernst.html](tnr.homestead.com/Ernst-

    Ernst.html)

    My 65 is nickel plated and quite beautiful to look at, but nothing quite beats
    your beautiful case!

    Terry

    ![Cal 65 &

    66](/media/ckeditor_images/f05861c385d09c9546546a4f7828d656.jpeg)

  • Master
    14 Jun 2020, 9:59 p.m.

    What a story. Another saga teller stood up.

    This is one of the best stories in this long thread.

    Did not see it in 2013 !

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)

  • Master
    16 Jun 2020, 8:58 p.m.

    Truly Fascinating thread! The story these timepieces could tell ......

  • Master
    17 Jun 2020, 11:25 a.m.

    This older post is still on the server:

    Just click for full resolution.

  • Master
    17 Jun 2020, 12:23 p.m.

    This post of Hebe here above, is just to brillant to not make it easy for
    everyone here to read.

    Also, what a magnificent watch that Hebe has here, and it's made even better
    with the great archive research.

    What a great post - thanks for sharing the above Hebe.