• 22 Jun 2020, 5:38 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 93, cal 33

    As said, the last week will be oldies and some very rare ones.

    As seen in previous posts, I was fortunate to have collected some rare cal
    32's.

    These are Lepine models, open face.

    The cal 33 is the Savonnete ( Hunter ) model is the cal 32, with some
    differences.

    I found on the forum info by the late Friedrich Wagener that the production
    numbers of the cal 33 were only around 200 pieces, and around 15 were seen
    still excisting.

    So happy and proud to present my cal 33, in a nice 18K gold case and in
    fantastic condition.

    Even in such a low production run, I saw differences in execution, the click
    on the rachet wheel that prevents that the winding spring unwinds, is
    different on some cal 33's. You can see a different one
    here
    in an older post.

    The serial number is hidden uder the dial, maybe I will take it one day to
    Schaffhausen to have a look.

  • Master
    22 Jun 2020, 8:59 p.m.

    Tonny, how was the case marked/stamped?

    I think to see only the 18k gold stamp.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)

  • 22 Jun 2020, 9:27 p.m.

    Adrian,

    all 3 covers have this stamp

    case has a number : 4

  • Master
    22 Jun 2020, 10:22 p.m.

    Ok Tonny , thanks.

    It is the head of 'Helvetia'.

    So another Swiss, non-IWC case, without doubt the original case to the watch.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)

  • Master
    23 Jun 2020, 1:23 a.m.

    Clearly, I missed my slot last night and Tonny posts a very nice golden oldie
    on this 93rd day of the Virtual museum.

    My lack of post was due to me having taken my trusty aquatimer out on an open
    water training dive this evening - and unfortunately when Tonny went live with
    his post I was at 5m under the lake on the platform with the students blowing
    bubbles.

    So, it's late and I dont want to break with the tradition - so will quickly do
    my bit.

    The Watch

    The watch I wish to share with you on Day 93 to complement Tonny's Cal. 33 is
    an equally beautiful golden oldie.

    When this watch first showed up on a local Dutch acution site, everything
    about it was dubious.

    Firstly the
    advertised price - and then that low amount, for a watch advertised as 18K
    gold. Then the Seeland was described as SeaLand, and to top it all off, there
    was that ofset hinge sitting not at the botton of the watch, but between the 7
    and 6 positions. And then, a ver blurry photo to boot.

    But from what little I could see, it looked like a Seeland calibre.

    So I contacted the seller and shared some of my concerns with him. I also told
    him, that a main concent of mine was that the asking price was very low - to
    low, for what he said he had. He told me that another IWC collector had been
    intrested in the watch, but that after he had looked closer at the watch, had
    told the seller, that the case was not originla to the watch, and that even
    the movement seemed to be "funny".

    This therefor why he was offereing it at a low price.

    Well, I asked for more photo's and the seller said he tried by could'nt get
    better pictures. I then asked where the seller was located and he gave me the
    name of a town about 95km away. So I made and appointment and took the drive
    of just under an hour. On inspection, the movement definately seemed to me to
    be an early Seeland, and the case looked to be gold. However, the Date Your
    IWC utility was clearly showing this movement serial number as a Cal. 52 or
    C. 53 which I knew it was not.

    Convinced the movement was old, and probably a Bascule de piliers, I
    told the seller that he could consider, that :

    a) I was right there with him in the room, with cash in hand...

    b) and that a bird in hand was better than two in the bush....

    c) ....and that yes, I might be interested and that we might could close the
    deal if the price was a bit more favourable.

    We did the deal.

    Well, as the say in the classics "all that's gold does not glisten" - but in
    this case, the classics were wrong. The case bore the same serial number on
    both rear covers, and this is what Schaffhausen wrote me after some
    investigation.

    Well, if the same watch is good enough for the books, then this golden oldie
    is certainly good enough for my Collection!

    and yes, her sister is there on page 81 of the book!

    ... Note also, the offset hinge as well on this watch pictured in the book.

  • Master
    23 Jun 2020, 8:28 a.m.

    Note also, the offset hinge too on the watch pictured on the book.

  • Master
    23 Jun 2020, 9:13 a.m.

    Great find , Mark.

    Congratulations.

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc).