• 26 Jun 2020, 5:49 p.m.

    As some of you know, I am collecting pocketwatches, IWC only.

    Far from saying that my collection is a museum collection but I am proud to
    have found some nice and rare pieces over time.

    Some of the pocketwatches are common, easy to find on the market, sometimes in
    better condition than mine, but some I have are gems.

    So in these crazy times, as the museum in Schaffhausen is closed, why not open
    one here on the forum.

    As long as the museum is closed, I will post here daily a pocketwatch from my
    collection.

    I hope I don't run out of pieces before the virus is beaten. Fingers crossed
    for all of us.

    I will post them in a random order, with some comments, feel free to join.

    Keep safe all.

    DAY 97, Jones number 933, patern H

    As I wrote a few days ago, finding an old Jones pocketwatch is always a
    special moment.

    After reading the Jones book from David Seyffer, Thomas Konig and Alan Myers,
    you realize that finding a Jones with a serial number below 1500 is like
    finding a needle in a haystack.

    The story of today starts with another watch and symbolise a bit the
    friendship that has grown between forum members, collectors. We could read
    some of these stories of shared passion and friendship a few times in this
    virtual museum.

    Some years ago, I saw a very early Jones on auction in the US. Since Jones
    started the International Watch Company to make the highest quality
    pocketwatches to export them to the States, it is not surprising that this is
    also the location to fiind these special pocketwatches.

    I looked closer and saw this

    Number 964 and the super quality of the pattern H. In a 18K gold case,
    original to the watch... What a find, no make sure to secure it for my
    collection.

    So in the middle of the night, on my birthday, I was behind my computer to
    bid. Paid more than I was planned, but hey, "when will there be another Jones
    like that crossing my path ?"

    So I was so happy to have a very rare and early Jones in wonderful condition.

    One of my collector friends who focused his collection on Jones calibres, saw
    it and got weak knees. " If you ever sell it, think of me first " That was his
    usual line at the end of every phonecall for several years.

    So when I saw this one on auction

    An even earlier Jones, pattern H, in similar condition, I bought it and gave
    my friend the choice, this one or the 964.

    So now I have great memories having owned the number 964 Jones, and being the
    proud owner of the number 933.

    What a great watch to post as the final of my virtual pocketwatch museum I was
    thinking a few months ago. But wait, look tomorrow what

    came into the collection during these 3 months...

    But here today, my Jones, pattern H

    And the two together

  • Master
    26 Jun 2020, 5:50 p.m.

    Indeed Tonny, the story behind these two watches is a sound reminder of how
    friendships and comarade have developed over the years here on the forum.

    In fact, as I have said before - collecting IWC watches (be it pocket watches,
    vintage watches, or the modern contempoary timepieces), is for me and so many
    of us, simply the catalyst to so much more interaction and like you I have
    over the years made trully great friends with so many people here. It is these
    friendships which I so treasure and which bring so much more than just pocket
    watch collecting to the table.

    Both watches you share today are trully magnificent.

    The Watch

    The watch which I shall share today is one I have been holding back on - and
    waiting for the right day / post, to add it as a complimentary post to your
    post of the day.

    However, yesterday suddenly and without and warning, the Forum Moderator
    unilaterly declared, quote " And this ends the series of cal 73 Art Deco
    watches .
    " ... and I was bowled over! I thefore imeadiately (at the risk
    of bringing down the wratch of the moderator on my head, responded that I
    reserved the right to still post here a Cal. 73.

    Having said that, I have aware of the both the size of the man, as well as the
    power of the moderators "delete button" and have though carefully over the
    last 24 hours, if I should actually proceed to post a Cal. 73 today. It's
    quiet a daunting thought though that I might have to deal with an angry
    Belgium fellow. So instead of taking the risk, I shall rather post ....

    I saw the Cal. 65 listed in the green circle above, and thought my collection
    could do with another art deco watch (they are as Tonny showed yesterday again
    - always quiet beautiful in appearance).

    However, I was a little perturbed by the less that 100% score of the seller.
    But many were watching the watch, and there were quite a lot of bidders. In
    for a penny - in for a pound!

    I made sure I won the auction!

    the magnificent Art Deco case, speaks for itself. Just look at the beautiful
    lines and design of that crown neck and bow ! If this is not pure eye candy to
    Mark F and others, then what is?

    The patina on the dial is spot on for a watch dating from 1927 - and this
    dial, I will leave totally untouched. It's much more pleasing on the eye too,
    in the hand.

    The case edge is decorated nicely too.

    So finally when the watch arrived, I was excited to open it up and check the
    serial numbers of this Cal. 65.

    And what do we see? Say what? What does it say in that red box here below?

    And when I compare this movement here below on the left (remember it's meant
    to be a Cal. 65) to Tonny's berautiful Cal. 73 here below on the right - what
    then?

    Well, my baby sister always says... "if it looks like a duck... and if it
    qwacks like a duck, it probably is a DUCK!

    So folks, I 'm good with Tonny - no more Cal. 73's - just a Cal. 65DUCK that
    I share with you today.

    And as a last bit of info...... she is of German 0.900 Silber and bears the
    Probus Scafusia logo proudly.

    But why did the seller think he had a Cal. 65?

    I think that tomorrow I may just show a little bit of the golden goose and
    show a true Cal. 65 and no Cal.65DUCK.

  • Master
    26 Jun 2020, 9:13 p.m.

    As we are moving towards the end of the series once again about finding a
    'Jones, the IWC arche-type pocket watch.

    We have seen two extremes :today a holy grail from Tonny an early hunter
    pattern 'H' in immaculate condition.

    And yesterday a twisted Jones from Mark in a terrible condition, restored to
    an ultimate beauty. Both ways of collecting are attractive. Buying a Jones in
    top condition is not cheap. Buying a wreck on which everything has to be
    repaired and restored is cheap but the misery may start once the job has
    started, without knowing the end. And in the end, the price of both watches
    maybe the same, But often the hours of work do not pay off in the market
    value. However, for a hard core collector the market value may not be the most
    important factor. Few perfect Jones have survived Alan Myers estimates about
    3 %. In most cases Jones are showing up like this
    :These
    incredible trays with Jones only were coming from the drawer of an aged
    watchmaker in the US. The whole bunch was bought by by a German gentleman, who
    was not an IWC collector. He on turn offered the collection of movements,
    dials etc. to a high ranking IWC officer in Schaffhausen. Thereafter this man
    asked the IWC collector community who of them would be interested and it was
    clear that never one person would take them all. Finally the collection was
    divided between 3 pocket watch collectors. Only the movements in average or
    good condition were restored over the past 4 years. Each of them have a story
    of revival in a way only Mark Levinsohn is able to tell. The hardest part is
    finding correct fitting American made, engine turned watch cases. Even more
    difficult is finding a watchmaker who is able to make a wheel, balance staff
    or winding stem from scratch. But the result is rewarding : each time a
    hundredandfifty years old piece of history is re-born providing a feeling of
    satisfaction to the collector and the restorer.

    Regards,

    Adrian,

    (alwaysiwc)

  • Master
    26 Jun 2020, 9:26 p.m.

    I won't sleep all night ... I'll be dreaming of all those restoration projects
    that Adrian shows!

    Adrian, is of course correct in that each Collector decides his own form and
    fashion of collecting style. For me, it's about the journey.

  • Master
    29 Jun 2020, 12:09 a.m.

    Oh Tonny - that Jones watch is magnificent! The movement is spectacular but
    with that rose gold case - oh my! What a find - I hope to be so lucky one
    day;)

  • Master
    29 Jun 2020, 12:07 p.m.

    Tonny, amazing story about finding these early, very low numbered, versions
    (and comradship)!

    Mark, love that style of PW!

    Adrian, thanks for contributing again and showing that fantatsic picture of
    Jones'!

    Regards, Bob

  • Master
    29 Jun 2020, 4:51 p.m.

    Beautiful and rare Jones! Thank you for showing Tonny - I am sad this journey
    through the Virtual Museum is coming to an end.

    Adrian, thank you for revealing the tray of wonders!

    MarkL - I truly love the Art Deco piece you showed! The decoration is
    astounding and patina built up over 93 years is spot on!