Which Big Pilot 5002 would you choose?

A
1 vote, 13% of total.
  • 1 vote, 13% of total.
B
7 votes, 88% of total.
  • 7 votes, 88% of total.
  • Graduate
    9 Mar 2020, 1:06 p.m.

    I am contemplating two IWC BIg Pilot 5002 watches. Which would you choose
    based on the following stats? Assume price of each is the same.

    A
    - Individual seller
    - original owner
    - never serviced/polished
    - original buffalo strap in very good condition
    - no warranty
    - original box and papers including receipt
    - original warranty card shows dealer and purchase date

    B
    - Authorized dealer
    - Complete service by IWC in February 2020
    - Polished while at IWC for service
    - new buffalo strap added when returned from service
    - 1 year dealer warranty from date of sale
    - 2 year IWC warranty from date of service
    - original box and papers
    - warranty card only shows where originally purchased (no serial #, etc.),
    Baily Banks and
    Biddle, which has since gone bankrupt
    - date is not on warranty card so I cannot determine year sold

  • Apprentice
    9 Mar 2020, 1:17 p.m.

    For the same price (procurement effort) I would prefer variant B).
    At a much cheaper price (+/- 15-25% cheaper) variant A).

  • Graduate
    9 Mar 2020, 2:08 p.m.

    Voted for B, too.

    As you don´t knwo when Option A was serviced the last time, you might end up
    with an expensive service soon, adding approx. 800 € to the equation.
    + you get the 2 years service warrinty by IWC which is great.
    That the original AD went bankrupt does not matter at all, as IWC will be your
    contact in any case of problems.

    The more important question IMHO would be, if you want to buy a 5002 "Slow
    Beat" or "Transitional" ... ;-)

  • Graduate
    9 Mar 2020, 2:16 p.m.

    Voted for B, too.

    As you don´t knwo when Option A was serviced the last time, you might end up
    with an expensive service soon, adding approx. 800 € to the equation.
    + you get the 2 years service warrinty by IWC which is great.
    That the original AD went bankrupt does not matter at all, as IWC will be
    your
    contact in any case of problems.

    The more important question IMHO would be, if you want to buy a 5002 "Slow
    Beat" or "Transitional" ... ;-)

    I appreciate the reply.

    A has never been serviced. I actually lean toward A, but one thing that
    worries me is that since it is a fish crown it may end up being a defective
    one since it has never been serviced/looked at by IWC.

    Regarding slow beat or transitional, I am a slow beat guy.

  • Graduate
    9 Mar 2020, 2:41 p.m.

    For the same price (procurement effort) I would prefer variant B).
    At a much cheaper price (+/- 15-25% cheaper) variant A).

    I dont think I can get A for much less than B. I can probably get B for
    around $8,300-$8,500 (no tax since shipped to FL). That would mean I would
    have to get A for $6,300 to $7,140. Those would be good prices though.

  • Master
    9 Mar 2020, 5:06 p.m.

    If B is not 'over polished' I'd go for that!

  • Apprentice
    9 Mar 2020, 8:41 p.m.

    I vote for A.

    The watchmaker I use could perform a complete service,if required, for less
    than $500.

  • Insider
    10 Mar 2020, 3:09 p.m.

    IF choice A was from someone reputable or someone you could trust I would go
    for A otherwise my vote would be B just for the peace of mind.

    Are all things equal? Are the both slow beat, fast beat, or transitional? Fish
    crown?

  • Connoisseur
    10 Mar 2020, 5:22 p.m.

    I vote for B as well. My 5002 was serviced by IWC in Dallas three times and
    has never returned overpolished.

  • Master
    10 Mar 2020, 6:09 p.m.

    Given the information you have provided, unless you require the watch to be in
    absolute original (albeit worn) condition, the obvious choice to me is B. Even
    with a $500 service, tack on the new strap and you're already almost $1000 in
    the hole and have no IWC-backed warranty. I trust IWC service to re-polish the
    watch to "factory" specifactions so the just-serviced watch should look as
    new. Also, the movement that has been serviced has been upgraded with the
    newer ceramic and metal parts in the automatic winding system - I am not sure
    that independent watchmakers have the ability to make this upgrade.

  • Graduate
    10 Mar 2020, 10:13 p.m.

    Are all things equal? Are the both slow beat, fast beat, or transitional?
    Fish
    crown?

    All things are equal. Both slow beat and both have fish crown. I assume
    nothing is wrong with the original owner fish crown if the watch is still
    operating normally after 16 years, but do not know for sure since he has not
    been serviced. I prefer the original owner, but would be disappointed for
    there to be an issue with the fish crown and have to have it replaced with a
    probus crown.

  • Graduate
    11 Mar 2020, 8:37 a.m.

    @Clem ... why would you go with A? I don´t see any advantages there, but would
    love to get your opinion on that.

  • Graduate
    11 Mar 2020, 12:21 p.m.

    Also, the movement that has been serviced has been upgraded with the
    newer ceramic and metal parts in the automatic winding system - I am not
    sure
    that independent watchmakers have the ability to make this upgrade.

    If this is the case I am probably leaning more toward A now. Although I do
    not plan to sell in the future, I would like the watch to be 100% original
    since it was the 1st modern Big Pilot.

  • Connoisseur
    11 Mar 2020, 1:52 p.m.

    I would go for option B! Last year my 5002 went to IWC for a full service,
    superb work and not polished at all. Including a new crytal, I paid 900€ and
    this would be o0n top if you go for option A at least.

  • Graduate
    11 Mar 2020, 2:29 p.m.

    I would go for option B! Last year my 5002 went to IWC for a full service,
    superb work and not polished at all. Including a new crytal, I paid 900€
    and
    this would be o0n top if you go for option A at least.

    Did you request that it not be polished? Did they replace parts with the
    newer ceramic and metal parts or keep it original?

  • Insider
    11 Mar 2020, 2:37 p.m.

    A has never been serviced. I actually lean toward A, but one thing that
    worries me is that since it is a fish crown it may end up being a defective
    one since it has never been serviced/looked at by IWC.

    Being that A has never been serviced and this is not necessarily a good or
    bad thing. Now would be the perfect opportunity to it send it in and
    serviced/polished. IWC will likely change/upgrade your crown and crown tube
    but don't fret. This is a good thing because there are now upgraded fish
    crowns (make sure to tell the AD/boutique that you want this option) so you
    don't have to run the risk of getting a Probus "crown". Not that there's
    anything wrong with that... The cost of the service would likely bring your
    costs to the same level as the serviced B option.

    That being said.... if you can confirm that B indeed has had the fish crown
    replaced during the February 2020 service, and it is the updated version....
    I'd change my vote and go with B.

    @Clem ... why would you go with A? I don´t see any advantages there, but
    would
    love to get your opinion on that.

    @Adrian partially because of known ownership history and
    limited information.
    See my addendum above.

  • Connoisseur
    11 Mar 2020, 3:04 p.m.

    The only thing I have requested, that I would like to have the updated new
    fish crown. The case was still in great shape for the age of the watch and I
    am not aware of any updated parts within the movement.