• Apprentice
    1 Nov 2022, 7:41 p.m.

    I'm looking at acquiring a vintage Yacht Club with the 8541B movement and am
    having difficulty distinguishing original dials and dial/hand combinations
    from ones that have been relumed, de-lumed or have had the hands swapped.

    Did the Yacht Club come in versions with and without lume?

    The most common sliver/white dial examples seem to have lume dots at the edges
    of the dial hour markers and straight baton hands with lumed sections towards
    the ends (interrupting black stripes). But there are also examples that have
    non-lumed baton hands with continuous black stripes that are narrowed at the
    dial-centre ends, similar or identical to the style used on many other IWC
    watches of the period. Most (but not all) of these lack lume dots on the dial.
    Then there are watches with blue or green dials that have non-lumed baton
    hands without stripes or narrowing at the centre.

    I'm wondering if those continuous black-striped hands narrowed at the
    attachment points were originally correct for some Yacht Clubs or if they are
    replacements.

    The "T" (for tritium) dial markings either side of "Swiss" also seem to be
    weirdly random - I've seen apparently non-lumed dials with "T"s and plenty of
    lumed ones without the "T"s. I wonder if earlier examples lacked the "T" and
    if in later years the "T" was used inconsistently or universally (or else if
    non-lumed "T" dials have had the lume removed).

  • Master
    3 Nov 2022, 3:50 p.m.

    Non lume dials ( and therefore fully onyxed hands) were used in the far east
    marketplace. A T or not a T will not make a ha'porth of difference to the
    authenticity of a dial ( all else being equal).